Should EMS wages be call based?

[craig]

I feel sorry for you guys in the great US of A, seems a substandard working deal and therefore a lower level of health care is what happens in this style of system here in NSW you join the job you get paid the same as eveyone else on your level, as the year progress you also get a pay rise at the same rate as everyone else dont matter if you are rural or metro based. If you specialize ie ICP technical rescue, flight para then you also get a pay rise that is calculated into you base rate. pays top out or the grunt ambo at 10 yrs...to get more you either specialize or go into management (equivilent to your Lt. Capt and such) the rural officers also get paid an on call allowance for the days they are on call as well as the O/T for each call out. O/T is available to all officers there are incentves for officers to stay in rural areas (isolation allowance, promotion credits, rental assistance etc) not bad going and seeing that the normal ambo can get around 100K in the rural setting its a wonder no more move away from the city.....like I said Aussie is Gods country....

Edited October 27, 2011 by craig

[DwayneEMTP]

I think one pay scale for every level is ok as long as it's good, there is a very solid way to measure proformance, and it's really easy to remove bad employees. Otherwise you end up in a bit of a socialist bind...poor performance equals all the perks of good performance and there are very few people that can maintain peak performance in that environment...

Dwayne

[craig]

I think one pay scale for every level is ok as long as it's good, there is a very solid way to measure proformance, and it's really easy to remove bad employees. Otherwise you end up in a bit of a socialist bind...poor performance equals all the perks of good performance and there are very few people that can maintain peak performance in that environment... Dwayne

Dwayne...all still depends on maintaining standards...part of the contract for employment is to maintain current certification competencies each 2 years in all levels....no 50% pass mark either ALS / ICP have a 85% pass with lower clinical levels have a 75% but all levels need to have 85% in ECG and 100% pass on all drugs and medications determine to their level of training.... that with regular clinical mentoring seem to weed out the poor performance. cheers BTW as an ICP technical rescue officer I am on base rate of 33.03 an hour in a rural setting Edited October 28, 2011 by craig

[DwayneEMTP]

It sounds like a good system man..

33/hr...isn't like like six chickens and some beads in Australian?

Dwayne

[craig]

It sounds like a good system man..

33/hr...isn't like like six chickens and some beads in Australian?

Dwayne

Dwayne, isnt that what you guys purchased Alaska and New York for?

besides with the exchange rate at 1 dollar Aus equal to 1.06 US i think I have the better deal.....(makes it 35.15 Hr to you guys...and i am not a manager just a grunt)

[Siffaliss]

In a sense yes, more calls mean more revenue, if u are in Podunk running 2 calls per shift and u r paying los angeles wages, u will either go bankrupt or be privatized soon

... assuming people actually pay ambulance bills

How about we go back to the days of F&B Ambulance, only 'millenium style'? Each ambulance could be outfitted with credit/debit card readers by each patient entrance and include the option of leaving a tip. No change provided with a cash payment. All drunks etc, people arguing for a specific hospital and criminals under arrest with a police escort in the ambulance pay an automatic surcharge.

Heh ...

Edited October 29, 2011 by Siffaliss

[tniuqs]

... assuming people actually pay ambulance bills

How about we go back to the days of F&B Ambulance, only 'millenium style'? Each ambulance could be outfitted with credit/debit card readers by each patient entrance and include the option of leaving a tip. No change provided with a cash payment. All drunks etc, people arguing for a specific hospital and criminals under arrest with a police escort in the ambulance pay an automatic surcharge.

Heh ...

A Great idea .. but if one is using the Z card (welfare for those not in the great white north) or the DIA Gold Card, (you know the with one airmile rewards plan) you could start a small war over that "little" social / pc / human rights issue .. but good luck with that, not disagreeing with user fees for that target group of abusers but the fact remains its just not ever going to become a reality.

As for a tip .. accepting one is a breach of the code of conduct with ACoP, just saying.

cheers

[Siffaliss]

A Great idea .. but if one is using the Z card (welfare for those not in the great white north) or the DIA Gold Card, (you know the with one airmile rewards plan) you could start a small war over that "little" social / pc / human rights issue .. but good luck with that, not disagreeing with user fees for that target group of abusers but the fact remains its just not ever going to become a reality.

As for a tip .. accepting one is a breach of the code of conduct with ACoP, just saying.

cheers

Squint

Get that fish out of your mouth and put some rum in there instead. I was kidding.

(P.S. - Watch MJ&S again)

[flamingemt2011]

If you think revenue is not important for your service, go talk to your chief ? Rural Metro and AMR are both in all out 911 acquisition mode, and they are telling municipalities that they can do 911 for zero subsidy or low subsidy. If you think you have job security, you are sadly mistaken.

[Asysin2leads]

If you think revenue is not important for your service, go talk to your chief ? Rural Metro and AMR are both in all out 911 acquisition mode, and they are telling municipalities that they can do 911 for zero subsidy or low subsidy. If you think you have job security, you are sadly mistaken.

And yet, many municipalities turn them down even though they are giving away something for free. What does that say about the quality of their product? Of course now that I learned that your organization doesn't mention anything about critical medical errors when they're not caught red handed on camera explains that a lot.

Fugheddaboutit Medical Response, we stitch and don't snitch to nobody.

Edited October 29, 2011 by Asysin2leads