Richard B the EMT

From the NY State Volunteer Ambulance and Rescue Association...

Eyewitness testimony has also been ignored with AA 587. BTW, I didn't witness the crash, just awakened by it, and then responded to it.

I don't know, but has anyone else noticed that you never see George Bush, Clark Kent, and Superman at the same time?

Careful, triemal04. You're bordering close to insulting a big bunch of folks. I've been a volunteer ambulance corps member, in 5 proprietary inter-facility transfer services, and 25 years in municipal 9-1-1 EMS, for a total, so far, of 39 years. For all that time, I have been a real EMT, no matter whose uniform I was wearing, or ambulance I was riding or driving. Some here have been in service shorter times than I have, and a few a longer time. It's safe to say all serve in one of the type EMS agencies, some in several, and some even at the same time. If I see the NY State EMT patch on someone's shirt or jacket, I know they had to go through the same training as I did. If from another state, I accept that, basically, they took the same training, with some differing nuances from the area they normally cover. The only EMTs that are NOT "Real" are those who either faked their training and documentation, or got duped by phony training personnel or training centers, and, unfortunately, that could happen to ANY vollie, proprietary, or municipal EMS wannabees before employment, or trying to maintain their employment.

Pilot failure or equipment failure, some will never be satisfied with the NTSB's "conclusive" answer. I, for one, still think it was equipment failure, not pilot error, for the crash of American Airlines Flight 587, an Airbus 300, on November 12, 2001, in my home community of Belle Harbor, NY. 260 souls aboard the aircraft, and 5 more on the ground, lost their lives.

Thanks, triemal04, your way of saying it was much less clumsy than mine. ERDoc, I should have gone to the NYCLU website.Thanks to you, also.

Can someone else from New York confirm this:

Any deaths are regrettable. If it is confirmed that one of the 2 deaths were due to being hit by an emergency vehicle, I really don't know what to think. I have vague memories of reading that someone on a racetrack pit crew, running to give aid, was hit by a fire truck going counter to the racetrack traffic flow, responding to a flamer wreck.

I've attempted using an FDNY thermal imaging device to look for a lost swimmer in the ocean at midnight. No sighting. NYPD Aviation flew over the area using the FLIR, also without a sighting. Never found out if it was a false alarm, or just bad information (swimmer came ashore and went home, without the friends seeing him). My lieutenant put us back available status after a half hour. On a different story, a SPAM I just got, supposedly from the FBI, indicated it was an FBI Alart . You best believe I did NOT try the link.

As my previous girlfriend lived in NJ, and was only seen at the VAC every couple of months for one or another event, perhaps they were jealous I had a girlfriend they could see almost every day? Lady J left the VAC about 2 years after we started dating, due to a small but vocal group constantly putting her down.

There's always the problem of fireworks purchased legally, then transported to states, cities or counties where they are illegal.

Lady J and I attended Jr High School at the same time (primary school, too, from the 3rd grade) but had no classes together except Chorus. She was just a face with a name attached, across the lunchroom, as I was dating someone else at the time. It would be almost 20 years before I'd meet her again, in the VAC. I'll tell that story again, but only on request here.

For brevity, I left that out

Are we talking Kennebunk or KennebunkPORT? The first I've never heard of, the second, I have a former girlfriend living there. She's a psychic, not a Zumba instructor, by the way, my friend in Maine.

Sorry, but who?

Nothing is cast in stone. I'm sure that some couples met as pre-teens, and had long lasting marriages once they got to their 20s, or even as early as 19 years old..

Does France have a July 4th? Yes. It just isn't one of their holidays.

I had headlight flashers, 4 cars back. FYI, considering the number of crushed cop cars, ambulances and yes, even fire engine and ladder companies I've seen, and even been in (2), lights and sirens do not keep you out of accidents. Proper training of emergency vehicle operators, with civilian awareness of other vehicles on the road does. Addendum: I was parked alongside my VAC's ambulance, my hood up, with my POV warning lights engaged, while attempting to jump the ambulance's batteries with cables connected to mine, while sitting in my wagon. Some jerk came out of the public parking lot, and rammed my Olds wagon in the rear, then jumped out of his car and tried to yell at me for cutting him off. This MoFo shut up, when he found himself surrounded by others from my VAC, 2 foot-beat NYPD cops, and 10 firefighters from FDNY Engine Company 268 and Ladder Company 137, across the street, who witnessed the incident. I was immobilized, and transported to the local hospital, where I was released a few hours later. The MoFo was one day away from his insurance being cancelled for not paying for the renewal.

I add mine, with a reminder. Have a safe and happy Forth Of July, everyone, and if you celebrate the 4th with a 5th, have a designated driver prearranged!

9:50 PM, NYC time. Nobody in chat. Trying again at another time.

I met my girlfriend of 24 years (and counting!) in my VAC, me as an EMT/Motor Vehicle Operator/Dispatcher, her as originally a "Paper-pusher", later as an "attendant" and dispatcher. 2 sisters from my VAC, who also went on to NYC Health and Hospitals Corporation EMS, married other (HHC) EMS personnel, one of which had also been in my VAC. The one who married from the EMS only person just got divorced, as he was two timing her.(Side-notes: there's a third sister inadvertently helped me get started with my "Lady J", and the unfaithful husband had, as the ring tone for his wife, "Who Let The Dogs Out?") 4 other couples were generated at my VAC. 2 of them were literally separated by death, the other 2 by infidelity. As for the NYC (HHC) EMS, and then the FDNY EMS, I worked with one guy whose wife relieved him on the next tour (both NYC agencies had or have rules saying spouses cannot work together, although they can work out of the same station, even if assigned to the EMD).

Not to sound vindictive, but the iceberg that the Titanic ran into, also sank!

I'm in USA Eastern Daylight Savings Time, and being semiretired, might make it to most times.

Just checked with the Smart4Two driver, who advises the other vehicle was an Ambulette Van!

sounds like a reasonable addendum.