What is Professional EMS?

[brentoli]

AND ELECTRIC MY GOD CON ED IS A BUNCH OF CROOKS! I'M NOT EVEN HERE MOST OF THE DAY! GOD!!!

Sorry. Got side tracked.

I am never home, and turn stuff off when ever I leave, and I still pay $100/month for my TINY one bedroom. Its ok. We feel.

[spenac]

I don't know why we waste our time. Those that think they are professionals even though they are hurting the profession they claim to be called to are not going to change. I just want to thank you for helping me not be able to pay my bills, not being able to buy my kids nice things. You volunteers are worse crooks than any electric company that someone else was cussing. Screw it I'm done.

[Asysin2leads]

I don't know why we waste our time. Those that think they are professionals even though they are hurting the profession they claim to be called to are not going to change. I just want to thank you for helping me not be able to pay my bills, not being able to buy my kids nice things. You volunteers are worse crooks than any electric company that someone else was cussing. Screw it I'm done.

Spenac, no, its okay, look, we all get frustrated sometimes. We all get hurt. Now come on, don't do anything rash, step back inside, come off of the ledge...

[CBEMT]

I don't know why we waste our time. Those that think they are professionals even though they are hurting the profession they claim to be called to are not going to change. I just want to thank you for helping me not be able to pay my bills, not being able to buy my kids nice things. You volunteers are worse crooks than any electric company that someone else was cussing. Screw it I'm done.

Yeah. She stops volunteering and like magic you start making 50 grand.

Right. It might happen.

Get a grip for cryin out loud.

[mobey]

Yeah. She stops volunteering and like magic you start making 50 grand.

Right. It might happen.

Get a grip for cryin out loud.

Nope... EVERY volley quits doing it for free, supply and demand gets thrown off kilter, communities are forced to find the money to pay for our services, public sees EMS as a job instead of a "noble donation of time".

Then we change JOB to Profession.

Then we demand to be payed as professionals.

The A&W down the street is hiring cooks for night shift...Starting wage $12/hr. Starting wage for a fresh EMT in the same town $14.60. Maybe someone will volunteer to cook hey?? :roll:

Who really needs to get a grip here!!

[CBEMT]

Who really needs to get a grip here!!

Answer: the people who think vollies are going to quit because "Gosh, there's medics out there who want jobs! Boy, we should just get out of their way."

If vollies quit anywhere near me, the town contracts with a private. Simple as that.

I've worked for the privates here. I'll take my chances with the vollies.

I don't expect you to understand. You don't know this system.

[cosgrojo]

I thought this was a thread about professionalism, not volly vs. paid (a horse as dead as any in the history of dead horses). Professionalism is up to the individual EMT. You can work for an unprofessional boss or company, but still be a professional. You can be unprofessional and work for a professional outfit. Throw out your definitions for a second and think about the aura of a professional. They exude confidence and competence. They care when others do not, they perform when others can't, and they improve themselves when others don't.

That's what I feel is professional EMS. If you would like to look stupid, feel free to disagree.

[Just Plain Ruff]

ok I'll take this argument on paid versus volly

If all volunteer services have to go then what do we do with the volunteer Search and rescue teams out there?

What do we do with the volunteer medical teams like DMAT?

Don't these groups fall into the volunteer arena???????

[spenac]

ok I'll take this argument on paid versus volly

If all volunteer services have to go then what do we do with the volunteer Search and rescue teams out there?

What do we do with the volunteer medical teams like DMAT?

Don't these groups fall into the volunteer arena???????

DMAT is paid when called in.

[Just Plain Ruff]

ok take DMAT out of the picture

What do we do with the search and rescue teams that are strictly volunteer. Do we get rid of them?