DwayneEMTP

I think that the valves are passive both opening and closing, aren't the? Trying to remember back... But maybe relaxation of the vessels would allow them to part far enough to fail even under the pressure of gravity? Not sure...guessing only...

I won't be able to see the vids for a month, or a little bit more...no way to make it happen here...But thanks for posting, on everyone's behalf... And thanks also for the above explanation!

I saw a quote somewhere where one of the world brainiacs was saying, "Before you can try and understand quantum physics you have to accept the fact that when you look away from the moon that it does in fact cease to exist." Now, I'm ok when crazy people talk like that, but when people that seem to be globally respected for their intelligence say such things it's freaky!! That's actually what got me reinterested in physics and walking down this path that I've now come to understand that I have no friggin' chance of understanding in this lifetime. And despite my reading, I still have no idea what he meant by the above quote. Particles that need to make two rotations before you see the same face again? That can vibrate at two frequencies at the same time? Electrons that move from one state to another without ever occupying the space in between? A single particle that can go through two holes at the same time? Multiple universes as a logical explanation for....anything!? Craziness....but really cool...and the puzzle is fun. And I do understand, to a point, that the above descriptions of 'things' are still ways that we try and use common physical descriptions to describe a world that can't be described in such a way...And that's maybe even crazier. I'm working on a theory that posits the idea that the world's physicists don't know what the hell is going on so they are all getting together, in a secret club somewhere...maybe, like an old warehouse, to come up with ideas that no sane person can really visualize, just so they don't have to tell anyone that they don't know why light does that funny thing when you shine it through a couple of slits. I'm much more comfortable with that theory than I am with quantum physics... I'm really excited that you guys joined in here!

But the double slit and the 'two hole' experiment aren't really the same are they? The two hole, as was explained in the book, has the issue of a single particle changing behavior based on whether or not there is one hole, or two holes available as possible options. The recorded patterns of accumulated particles being different whether or not one hole or two are being utilized at the moment. What I found strange, and perhaps I misunderstood or it was reported in the book incorrectly, is that despite there being no other paticles to interact with, if a particle is passing through a single hole, but both holes are available, then that particle, and those following will record a pattern of interference as expected if both holes are occupied by many particles. If, even at the very last moment, the second whole is closed, then the same particle, and those that follow will record a pattern as if a single hole only was used. Again, according to the book, attempts to 'fool' the particles were unsuccessful and the particles seem to continue to make the pattern expected by the observer, (the observer knowing if one or two holes are available at that moment) the assumption being that the observer will expect pattern A if both holes are available, or B if only one hole is available, and it seems to make no difference that those patterns "shouldn't" vary when only single particles are being deployed at a given time..right? Though I more or less (in layman's terms) get the uncertainty principle, that we're unable to observe small things without effecting them, and the fact that intuitive large 'real world' physical theory can't be applied to quantum mechanics, this still seems like a strange issue...Or am I screwing the pooch in my understanding somewhere? (Sorry, in a hurry. Can't proof! Apologies for errors both intellectual and gramatical.)

Hi all, I'd originally was posting this to chbare's email but then thought, first, he probably has better things to do than answer my stupid physics questions, and second, that maybe others are curious about such things too. My physics education is about 30 years stale now, but it's something that interestes me so I kind of play with it on the very basic, very layman level. In that spirit I was reading "The search for Schrodinger's cat." In there the author talks about the "two hole experiment" (stop it, friggin' pervs...). I'd been familiar with the three slit (Really! Stop it!) experiement, and thought that I'd understood it, but I guess that I didn't. You can gain much more information on either experiment with Google and/or ChrisB than I can explain here, so I'm just going to state my understandings of the possible conclusions. I'm going to state things as fact, just so that I don't have to write "as I understand it" or "seems to be" in every sentence. They should be assumed to belong there however. So basically the two hole experiment seems to show that particles are aware of being observed and in fact change their behavior based on the expectations of the observer. No, I didn't make that up! This is a preliminary conclusion that a lot of really, really smart people have come to. That a particle can/does change it's behavior based on observer expectations. I can see this two ways. That it can change it's behavior passively, like electricity following an open channel. That an observer's intentions create a physical change that the particle reacts to, but we've just not discovered the link yet. Or more active, with the particle, or something controlling the particle being aware of the observers intentions and therefore making a logical, "aware" decision on it's path. As you might imagine, though this idea is fun to follow, it freaks me out too. Likely there are many other options that I just can't see now. If individual particles can/do change their behavior based on the expectations of the observer, does this then seem to imply that the particle is 'aware?' And if so, does it then possibly imply an 'aware' universe(s)? (If so, DFIB is so going to kick my ass all over this thread...) I'm not asking anyone to teach me physics, but I thought that it might make for an interesting discussion... I look forward to your thoughts...

I've not heard of such a thing before, though my experience doesn't lend itself to being a good source for this... Others will know much more. I'm only commenting to say "Welcome!" and say thanks for such an intelligent and professional first post! I'm truly sorry that you had to wait to have it approved before posting, but we've been getting slammed with spam recently and it's our stop gap while Admin finds other solutions.. Good to have you Brother! I hope you find something interesting here and decide to stick around... Dwayne

(oops. Posting at the same time as DFIB. Redundancies are accidental.) But having a conclusive answer wouldn't make for much of a conversation... My first thought was pooling too, but it doesn't sound likely here based on the position of the body. I wonder if the position of the neck, as mentioned above, maybe could have restricted vascular return but still allowed the arteries to pump the head full of blood? I find the fact that it's black, despite there still being purple areas on other parts of the body really interesting.... It sounds like what I've seen with hanging...I wonder if just an anatomical positioning fluke could have created the same result?

My guess Girl, is that you're probably more or less where you're supposed to be. Any decent school that focuses on medicine, I'm guessing, is going to try at some point to weed out the whiners and cry babies. Those that just can't hang. If you're feeling this way now, and we know that you're strong, and smart, then I'm guessing that there are plenty more fake smiles in your nursing class too. There were times in the last year of medic school, which is likely less challenging than nursing, when it truly made me sick to my stomach to open my books again. I was so exhausted from the whole process that I just didn't think that I could do it. What worked for me is I'd say, "Ok. You've tried hard enough. Just go in and wake Bab's up and tell her 'thanks for all of your sacrifices, but they were for nothing. I'm going to quit now.'" and I couldn't do it. So then I'd say, "Ok. One more day. That's all. I'll go to class/clinicals/work just one more day so that I know that I did the very best that I could, but tomorrow I'm going to tell them that I quit." And that kept me going for months. That, and doing what you're doing, coming here and letting our City brothers and sisters carry me for a while... If your husband had helped you through this, if he's shouldered more than his fare share of the family load to allow you to do this, then understand that you no longer have to do it for you...he deserves for you to do it for him, doesn't he? Stop thinking about the future, stop thinking about why you want it, or if you need it...all of that is for another day. Now, just do today then get naked, get laid, recharge, and then tomorrow, just do that day too. Looking forward can create a massive burdon when the reality is that one day really isn't that much work, right? Would you be exhausted and demoralized tomorrow, if tomorrow was your last day of school? Keep your chin up Babe....you've got this...

John, excellent post Brother...really useful. Grief is really strange, and the reasons that we cry over it varied I think. I grew up 'redneck proud' and would cry over nothing, ever. Now I cry every time I leave Babs and Dylan at the airport to go back to work. And I think that I'm stronger now that those emotions have more power over me...however that works. Like John said, dealing with it in a healthy maner is what's important. And "hardening up" is almost certainly never going to be that 'manner.' What an awesome thread this has become... KSEMS, running on that suicide...that's just bullshit bad luck there..a close friend, too early, unnatural, traumatic, no tools to deal with it, and almost certainly his fate was sealed before you arrived...Yeah..that just sucks. Good on your for your perspective... And someday, when you run on 'that kid' that's like your kid? You'll do awesome, you'll cry for them too, put them in perspective, move on and friggin' rock on the next call...You'll see. I've now had all of the calls that scared me when I was newer, and with less experience, but you know what? With one exception, my first nasal intubation, I didn't recognize them as the calls that I was always afraid of until after... Thanks to you all for participating..that's cool as hell. Now take all of this brain power to some other threads!! It's time to wind this place up a bit, and that requires everyone helping to keep the threads active by posting new topics...

And you will never, ever, ever feel like you're prepared to start clinicals. So let that go and don't worry about it any more until the time comes. New career, new crew, new environment, unknown responsibilities...It's scary as hell. If you're lucky you will get with a crew that remembers that and they'll kill all of those fears in about the first 15 minutes..

Exactly DFIB. Nearly every person that I love and respect is a Christian, or now, some religion that I'm not. But I've yet to find a radical anything that I want making decisions on me or my family's behalf. I'd much prefer the obviously, admittedly flawed to speak on my behalf than the obviously, unadmittedly self deluded 'perfect' person. Thanks for picking up on the difference...

For the record, you don't necessarily have to get fat if you go to college instead... Man..what an excellent thread...

I can't see the story, but the headline is certainly tragic...What a mess... Folks are going to need to be really careful to keep an eye on dad's state of mind I'm thinking or there's liable to be more than one member of that family that will be dead from a gunshot in the near future...

You know what I like is that it shows how a provider can be heart broken yet angry at the same time, for the same person in a single situation. I've found this often. I need to care for you if I'm going to treat you properly, though you brought this one yourself, yet being unwell in some way caused you to do that, and I'm tasked, and priveledge to take care of the unwell in any form... The emotional puzzle can get confusing enough that it's allowed (forced ?) me to say, 'Fuck it...I'm just going to love and care for everyone and trust karma to sort out the rest..." I know it's not everyone's way, but it seems to work for me, and that seems to be the energy that the poem is written in...(to my way of reading it) Thanks for posting it! How did we get even this far in this thread without someone posting the "You've done your time in hell" bullshit? Pretty cool....

You know what Brother, you're taking my post in the spirit intended bodes really well for your being a decent fit at least for EMS. Embracing criticizm is the life blood, in my opinion, of doing medicine at our level, and perhaps all levels, but I have no way to know. And you will find that the respect that is shown to the community by cleaning up your posts will pay big dividends. If you should happen to think that I criticized your first post from a point of view of arrogance, take a look at my early posting history here. You will see the most idiot, inane, gramatically incorrect bullshit that you can possible imagine. The fact that I'm sometimes confused for someone above the 6th grade level is a credit to the kindess of those here pointing out my errors, certainly not due to any brilliance on my part. And I can't begin to express my gratitude for them not allowing me to continue down a path that I now find humiliating when I look back. I'm excited for you! The ride through the AAS program can be hard, and really long, and it won't be easy...but when you come out the other end you've got so much more information available to be able to become whatever type provider you choose. Take the time between now and the beginning of the medic class and see if you can get your A&P done...any good program is going to demand both of those. And I think that completing your current class is an excellent idea. And do yourself, and us a favor, would you? Keep posting here. Ask questions, argue, participate. But fair warning..interacting with professionals at the level that we're blessed with here will put you in a different, more professional mindset than most of those that you will go to school with...and that will rarely be popular. It's good to have you. Those here held my hand through my entire college experience, as they continue to do now. I'm confident that you'll find the same if you're brave enough to reach out when you need to... Good luck my friend! It's going to be a hell of a ride! Dwayne

Those were great...

Man, I like the 'lies' poem too....pretty cool guys....

As much as I love a good party, it's just hard for me to imagine the situation where I'm going to let someone play with my rear, put a tube up it and pour alcohol in. No matter how much tequila is involved. Kids are going to experiment. It's what kids do...These stories will get around and the effect will be minimal in congress I'm guessing Ruffster... :-) To be hones I'd much rather have one of these kids, those that took foolish chances when young, as I did, passing laws in my government than the radical Christian that's got no context for such things..wouldn't you?

Yeah Brother, first, breathe. Truly. I'm curious about which of the 3/4 of the classes in the community college course you believe have nothing to do with EMS? Math? Tons of it. English? Reread your post and tell me what you think. If you enter this field you'll spend a huge part of your life enteracting with professionals and you will want, and need, to do so in a much better way than you are now. In many places there are grants for college, plus what you see for money is rarely what you're actually going to pay. My AAS cost me somewhere around $9,000 or so. It's certainly the best investment that I've ever made and I continue to pay it off $150 a month or so. (low interest student loan) It sounds as if you're looking to be a really good provider. If that truly is the case then you need to consider one of the AAS courses, and get good with the fact that all of those classes that you don't believe apply to EMS are actually vital to being a good provider. And you're absolutely right, you can't even begin to get a feel for A&P in a few hours. After two semesters I loved what I knew, and it was time very well spent, but most of it I still have no clue about. You can skip them, and be a yahoo, or accept that there is way, way more to EMS than putting on bandages and starting IVs and that very few are really good, rounded providers. There aren't any shortcuts. But again, I'd be interested to hear, and not so that I can bust your balls, that's not my intent, what classes in the AAS you feel have "nothing" to do with EMS.. Hang in there my friend...Almost all of us where overwhelmed in the beginning...we'll work it out...

You know Bushy, a couple of things... First the arrogant, though ignorant know it all...man, that's a special case and I think that everyone has issues with them. My way is to pull them aside and say something like... "You know what Brother? Enough of your bullshit. You pretend that you know it all and have seen it all, yet your making simple mistakes that even a rookie should be able to avoid, and you're making those mistakes way too often. Someday you're going to come to understand that you're using that nonsense to cover your fear. I know that you can do this stuff, you're just choosing to occupy your time acting tough instead of being competent....and it's not fooling anyone. I need you to step up to the plate. If I can't trust you to follow simple instructions then we're going to have to take this to the next level and have management sort it out. Let's be partners, kick ass, and leave all of the nonsense to the kids, ok?" Then s/he'll either back off and try harder, or whine and tell everyone what an idiot you are because you can't see his/her brilliance and think s/he's posing. Also, the 'nice' way works way, way, faster if used properly than the old way. There's a good primer, a book called, "Don't shoot the dog" (not really about dog training by the way)..it goes into reinforcement theory pretty well in layman's terms...it's tiny, but well worth the read. Snapping during the crumping patient? Yeah, I've always certainly tried to avoid it, but I would have to have a talk with the partner that couldn't handle that.

I KNEW a SARs virus was on the horizon....you think that they're really out there looking for people? Nope...it's just an excuse to have a giant search and rescue orgy hoping that lost people will be able to find them by following the randy smell.... It was just a matter of time really....

28/Oct...about 12 years from now it seems...

Good to have you man! Jump in and get dirty...it's really the only way to learn anything...reading is good, doing is better....