Do you work with an EMT or a driver?

[medik8]

So now the question becomes what do we do about it? This the part that is going to get me hate mail. It is up to us, the ones on this board complaining about bad partners to fix the problem. It is up to the lead person on the unit, be it a Paramedic or Basic, to be a hard ass. You must force these people to care and follow orders. Tell them, not ask them to clean the unit. No more McDonald's bags in the front, no more equipment scattered about, I want the unit high and tight, no if, ands or butts. If you do not keep my unit clean I will write you up or make your life a living hell. You will learn your job, you will know where every piece of equipment is and I expect it the moment I ask for it. You will keep all equipment clean and ready for use, you will keep everything stocked and up to date. Most importantly you will know the treatment modalities for this service, protocols books are for everybody not just Paramedics. I will help you with this, I will teach what you need to know and I will show how to do things you do not know how to do. I can be your friend or your tormentor, but you will learn this job. There are two roads they can choose, they can quit or they can learn either way is fine with me.

Peace,

Marty

Word....

You basically just quoted my thoughts here....like I said before in the last thread that covered this topic (where I spoke of sending students home that looked like crap, etc. etc. etc....) this is me, this is where I stand. I won't put up with any crap from anyone. I will bust my ass to teach you everything I can, and then some...but look like a slob, show laziness, disrespect, and a poor attitude and you can just pack up and go home. I have neither the desire, nor the patience to deal with you. Sorry...My choice. If you haven't decided by now that you want to be serious about this, and that you want to be a professional...then go apply at Taco Bell. Show up there looking like crap with an attitude and let them deal with your arse...

xoxoxo

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[Ace844]

Seems to me in the current environment of EMS..."FIXING THE PROBLEM"...as you so aptly put it will more than likely place you in the fastlane to unemployment... You being one of the few competent ones are now in the minority, the majority is ignorant, so you make noise and try to fix it. Doing this garners the attention of management, then as it continues you become percieved as "THE ONLY ONE WITH A PROBLEM"!! Just look at everyone else, they can't tie their shoes or operate a B/P cuff...but they get along and don't make waves..!!! Your fired....

Now how do you fix that?!?!?!?!?

out here,

ACE844

[Dustdevil]

Yep. Had a supervisor call me in for a talk once. Said none of the rookies wanted to work with me and so he didn't know what he was going to do with me. Me?? He didn't know what he was going to do with ME because some slackers didn't want to work with a professional who required that they actually do their job?? Yeah.... there is the extent of management's concern right there. :roll:

[PRPGfirerescuetech]

Yep. Had a supervisor call me in for a talk once. Said none of the rookies wanted to work with me and so he didn't know what he was going to do with me. Me?? He didn't know what he was going to do with ME because some slackers didn't want to work with a professional who required that they actually do their job?? Yeah.... there is the extent of management's concern right there. :roll:

EMT's, scared to work with Dust??

I couldnt imagine why.... :wink:

I have to agree with all of this. Laziness and incompetence has become the standard. The reverse is, those who are professionals become jaded, with poor attitudes simply by being work down....which doesnt help the view from those who do the slacking...

[Ace844]

EMT's, scared to work with Dust??

I couldnt imagine why.... :wink:

I have to agree with all of this. Laziness and incompetence has become the standard. The reverse is, those who are professionals become jaded, with poor attitudes simply by being work down....which doesnt help the view from those who do the slacking...

"prpg,"

Perhaps then you could provide some insight as far as management then as to "how does one fix that?!?!?!?!?" or perhaps your .02...???

Seems to me in the current environment of EMS..."FIXING THE PROBLEM"...as you so aptly put it will more than likely place you in the fastlane to unemployment... You being one of the few competent ones are now in the minority, the majority is ignorant, so you make noise and try to fix it. Doing this garners the attention of management, then as it continues you become percieved as "THE ONLY ONE WITH A PROBLEM"!! Just look at everyone else, they can't tie their shoes or operate a B/P cuff...but they get along and don't make waves..!!! Your fired....

out here,

ACE844

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[PRPGfirerescuetech]

"prpg,"

Perhaps then you could provide some insight as far as management then as to "how does one fix that?!?!?!?!?" or perhaps your .02...???

out here,

ACE844

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Brother Ace...

Every problem in EMS reverts back to education.

Increase education standards, weed out the problem children, create a third cert tier and relegate the leftover problem children to this level. Allow them to handle the exponential increase in "BLS-BS" patients using the system as primary medical care.

This forces the bastard children away from the professionals, allows the professionals to grow, and takes a notch of the system abuse problem off of the EMS system as a whole. This keeps the sick patients to the people who put their heart in professionalism, education, and treating patients well.

Segregation yo, dats how u do dis...

[Scaramedic]

The bad news: Like I said I have been off the streets for five years, it is sad to hear that my beloved profession is letting idiot's work in the field again.

The good news: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insur.....nahhh just kidding. No the good news is I am going back on the streets. I am studying the changes in the last five years and I will soon be a Paramedic again. So all I can say is God help these slackers if one of them ends up on my unit. I can't change the world but I can sure have fun!! :glasses7:

[ToledoEMT]

I must be an exception...I am an EMT-I (just found out I passed the NREMT) and EVERYTHING is exciting and cool and new

for ME. The medics I worked with on all of my ride-alongs kept apologizing that we didn't get any "good" calls..

I had to say to them,"EVERY call is good for me, I am here to learn."

AMEN!!! Okay, finally someone who feels the same way I do.

[buckeyedoc]

We are lucky at my station that we don't have to put up with new partners every shift. Our station manager has recruited (for the most part) good people. My last partner had to be the laziest piece of crap I've ever met. When I started out in EMS, it was the driver's job (basic, medic or whatever) to get the bus back in order after the run. Being the medic on the shift, I do about 95% of the EMS runs. I would get the bus back in order, re-linen the cot and even take the drug bag to the pharmacy for exchange. Don't get me wrong, I don't care to do it, but I've put my time in as the gopher. As soon as the run was over, she would run out to smoke and talk on the phone. I don't know how many times her battery died from talking on it so much. All she did was bitch and moan about having to do anything. Well, I ran her off my shift FINALLY. My partner now is a little better, but a bit immature. I'll work on him though.

[HEAD inj]

Yup...been there done that...I have been called a dinosaur, old school. But, you know what i paved the way for those young sh@t's. worked my BUTT off. (30 yrs.) Now I see the tattooed pierced Gothic types, cell phone text junkies in EMS.

Seen ones who do not restock the bus after a call, Do not even wash the bus when one can hardly see out the windshield, or clean up their mess in the kitchen at the station, wine and cry about the transfer call to the nursing home when I ask them to attend the BLS call. I might be an old fart in EMS but I do the damn job....