LisaO925 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I dont really have alot of people at home, (well none any) that can help me with my initial assessments (SOB/Chest Paint/Abdominal Pain/BASIC-Head to toe exam) outside of class. Is there anyone who wouldnt mind helping me via IM chat set up an evironment, and run through a few basic initials and them some with PASTE / OPQRST/ including the TEMPDR's for them? You can just send me a message on here.. Not sure if it matters, but I am in CA, and I am only in EMT-B right now.. Thank you so very much Title changed to reflect content...AK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akflightmedic Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 What is PASTE and what is TEMPRDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eydawn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 If I am on AIM, feel free to IM me. But you're going to have to fill me in on WTF PASTE and TEMPDRS mean. Never heard of them. Patient? Allergies? Signs? Time? Events? Is that what PASTE is? How about we use SAMPLE like most of the country is aware of... Wendy CO EMT-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 How about we use SAMPLE like most of the country is aware of... Or how about none of them, as we managed to do without for thirty years. You know that old theory about the amount of crap on an EMTs belt having an inverse relationship to their experience level? I am seeing the evolution of a whole new theory. That is, the amount of silly acronyms used by an EMT school has an inverse relationship to the quality of their training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPINFV Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 But without "HAM" how would I know that I'm supposed to ask about a patient's history, allergies, and medications? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaO925 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 What is PASTE and what is TEMPRDS? Progression Associated chest pain Sputum Talking tiredness Excercise tolernance T-indications for: Expiration date of medication Medication - correct for indiction Pt's medication - is it prescribed to the Pt Dosage Route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaO925 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 Or how about none of them, as we managed to do without for thirty years. You know that old theory about the amount of crap on an EMTs belt having an inverse relationship to their experience level? I am seeing the evolution of a whole new theory. That is, the amount of silly acronyms used by an EMT school has an inverse relationship to the quality of their training. Even the teachers have said that when you get out in the field you will learn your own way of doing assessments and other "stuff". Until then, I have to do as they teach me/us in the class, and they go by the skill sheets the NR gives them. I need to "learn their way" Until I can find my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 They should be teaching you a viable way from the beginning. Otherwise, they are doing you a disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eydawn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Yes, we've certainly established that American EMS courses suck. Do you propose someone fail the course as a matter of moral principle, when they've put down several hundred if not thousands of dollars for it because BEFORE THEY GOT THERE they DIDN'T KNOW HOW SCREWED UP WE WERE.... ? You have to jump hoops to pass *any* class, since passing is at the discretion of the instructor. EMS hoops happen to be ridiculous acronyms and the farce that is the NREMT test. Wendy CO EMT-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyM83 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 For a class that teaches mostly algorithms, I don't really see acronyms such as OPRST inappropriate. They're succinct ways to ask as appropriate questions, especially when under stress and your mind blanks. Attempting to do much more based on the 100-200 hours of training is asking for mess-ups in the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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