Dustdevil Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Again, a topic directed mostly at the physicians, PAs and advanced practice nurses here, bur anybody with experiential input is welcome to answer. Anybody have a decided preference between the Bates Physical Exam text and the Mosby? I've been using the DeGowan text for the last twenty-something years and it's getting a bit dated. It was the med school standard back in my day, but I'm looking to replace it with something better illustrated and up to date. I read a good comparison discussion between Bates and Mosby on another forum awhile back, but now I can't seem to find it. Anybody have experience with these two books? EDIT: Doing some more Googling, I found a review for the Saunders text "Textbook of Physical Diagnosis: History and Examination" which concludes with this helpful morsel: Guess I'll keep Googling and see what else I can find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p3medic Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I have an older Bates, I love it, but I haven't compared it to the Mosby....I don't think you would be dissapointed with the Bates, in my opinion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDoc Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Again, a topic directed mostly at the physicians, PAs and advanced practice nurses here, bur anybody with experiential input is welcome to answer. Anybody have a decided preference between the Bates Physical Exam text and the Mosby? I've been using the DeGowan text for the last twenty-something years and it's getting a bit dated. It was the med school standard back in my day, but I'm looking to replace it with something better illustrated and up to date. I read a good comparison discussion between Bates and Mosby on another forum awhile back, but now I can't seem to find it. Anybody have experience with these two books? EDIT: Doing some more Googling, I found a review for the Saunders text "Textbook of Physical Diagnosis: History and Examination" which concludes with this helpful morsel: I used Bates in med school and thought it provided everything I needed. It's full of pictures, which is very helpful when learning to do a physical exam. You learn how to do a VERY thorough exam. As for the sections on clinical decision making and cultural diversity, you can get those elsewhere. I highly recommend Bates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridryder 911 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I agree Bates is the bible of physical examination, like Tabers is the choice for dictionary. Some things, no matter how old is still good. R/r 911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSTUDENT Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I used the Mosby Guide in class. Good book, but I must say, I learned most of the material hands on from several specialist. We were simply forced to remember, word for word, comprehensive assessments for every body system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDoc Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 We were simply forced to remember, word for word, comprehensive assessments for every body system. Uh oh. I feel a verbal beating coming on. Duck and cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSTUDENT Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Uh oh. I feel a verbal beating coming on. Duck and cover. I don't see why. I never said we weren't also forced to fully understand what we were doing. It pretty much comprised an entire semester. More specifically, it was an entire class by itself. When I mean memorize, I mean when I got to my integument exam I had to resight word for word what I was doing, while also doing it on a mock patient. I mean we had to understand what we were looking for with an ophthalmoscope. It wasn't just "inside are pretty colors and they mean something." At that point in my career I should have obviously understood the structures and functions; however, the pathophysiology of abnormal findings was a large part of class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDoc Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I don't see why. I never said we weren't also forced to fully understand what we were doing. It pretty much comprised an entire semester. More specifically, it was an entire class by itself. When I mean memorize, I mean when I got to my integument exam I had to resight word for word what I was doing, while also doing it on a mock patient. I mean we had to understand what we were looking for with an ophthalmoscope. It wasn't just "inside are pretty colors and they mean something." At that point in my career I should have obviously understood the structures and functions; however, the pathophysiology of abnormal findings was a large part of class. Good thing you explained it a little more. As I'm sure you have noticed, there are a few people on here that think EMS education, or lack thereof, sucks. The way you made it sound was that you were just forced to memorize and recite what you were told, not absorb and understand it. I was just expecting one of the few with strong opinions on here to pick that statement apart, no harm meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkei Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I used Bates' 8th Ed and really like it. Haven't seen Mosby's though so I'm biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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