Basics Doing Advanced Patient Care - Good Or Bad?

[spenac]

OK I saw in another forum a discussion of Basics doing "ALS" procedures. One post though seemed to indicate by sarcasm that it was a bad idea. Here is that qoute of Medic417

"Once when the hospital was in serious crisis I was asked to assist in surgery. Since I knew how to spread a chest I did to save time for the surgeon. Thinking about it I think we should start doing it in the ambulance to save time for the surgeon. I mean all we're gonna do is seperate the ribs,not actually touch the heart or anything like that. I mean its so simple a monkey can be trained to do it so why shouldn't we add this skill?"

So what are your opinions?

[Just Plain Ruff]

no no no no no no no no no no did I say no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[akroeze]

I agree with the poster though! Spreading ribs isn't that hard! And really, hard is it to sew something together? We should be able to do CABG as long as you can prove you got your sewing badge in Scouts.

[mobey]

One time I pushed a McDonalds straw inside another McDonalds straw.... I am pretty sure I could insert a stent.

[spenac]

One time I pushed a McDonalds straw inside another McDonalds straw.... I am pretty sure I could insert a stent.

How much would you charge? I might need one and well I'm sure as we're friends you could fix me up on the cheap.

[akroeze]

One time I pushed a McDonalds straw inside another McDonalds straw.... I am pretty sure I could insert a stent.

Now that is funny

[CBEMT]

I worked with a medic once who claimed to have put an IV catheter into a vein that was smaller than the catheter itself. Angioplasty has to be easier than that.

[spenac]

So to get back on track should basics be starting IV's, giving narcan, D-50, or any of the other many monkey see monkey do skills that so many seem to claim basics should be allowed?

[JPINFV]

No.

[akroeze]

So to get back on track should basics be starting IV's, giving narcan, D-50, or any of the other many monkey see monkey do skills that so many seem to claim basics should be allowed?

I doubt you'll find many that will say yes.