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I hope this wasnt someone who works in the medical field...Not too smart

No i wouldn't especially, if there is obvious signs of death..I would comfort the parents and make sure someone from the family/friend stay with them for support... :wink:

How is denying them full-time professional medical care "helping" them? Anybody who thinks that (as I once did myself) is incredibly short-sighted and thinking only of their own personal priorities, while ignoring the greater needs of the community.

The whole absurd volunteer issue aside, EMT-I or CC is still a stupid idea. If you are really and truly in it to do your best to "help" people, then get serious about it and go to paramedic school. Don't be a half arse. Don't look for shortcuts to glory. Do your best, or go home.

Dust..Whats really the problem here? Do you feel because people Volunteer their time for their community that you will never make alot of money as a Paramedic? I would never spend a year in school to become a Paramedic for 2 reasons..I think its crazy to spend $8,000 to become a Paramedic and get paid chump change when you finally do get a job, that you cant even survive on when you have a family..The other reason is this is not something i want to do for a living...I have a Bachlors Degree in Business Administration and i make a damn good salary..Soo if i just want to help out my community without making money for doing it then thats my problem not yours or anybody else's..

Dust, I think you are wrong. It is helping our community. We live in a very poor, senior citizen community. They don't have the money. I, for one, take pride in being able to GIVE those services to the community. Too many times, those who do it for a living, forget what service is all about. Would you still serve your community if you didn't get a paycheck? I do it because it makes me feel good to give something back to those around me. Yes, I wish I did have the time for a paramedic class. Yes, it would be funded, somehow. But I still feel we are offering the best that we can to those we help.

Ladyfirefighter many people here dont believe in volunteering their time in EMS. I also volunteer for a ambulance corp in my community. I went from a EMT B to a EMT CC to be able to provide ALS services to those in need...Don't listen to them and feel proud in yourself for giving of your time to help people that need your care...I didn't get into EMS for the money but to help people..It's the greatest feeling in the world... :wink:

Can and should are two very different things. Sure, CAN shock someone on a stretcher with no backboard. I've seen it done with the pt on a reeves and on the stretcher. A hard surface just makes compressions much more effective, not sure it effects defib. Just don't touch the frame.

Ok...Thanks for the info..I figured you could shock someone on a stretcher as long as u didnt touch the metal side rails..My darling friend and co-worker was telling me that u need to use a short board. I thought maybe i missed something in my training..Thanks again... :wink:

I have a quick question which i'm sure many of you will be able to answer...Can you shock a pt on a ambulance stretcher without any backboard?

What will they think of next? This is just like the Auto Pulse thread, lets stop wasting time and money on these "toys" and focus on Medics actually performing their jobs correctly. Why spend $120 on this thing, when a Medic, for free mind you, can 1. visualize the ETT passing through the cords, 2. confirm with ETCO2, 3. confirm with an increase in SPO2, and 4. confirm with the presence of bilateral breath sounds.

Soon we wont have any jobs because someone will invent a robot to do what we are doing now..Lets spend the money for trainings and better education for medics and emts.. :wink:

I define "good" by improved survival rates.

So far, Autopulse has failed at that.

Pink cadavers aren't worth $15k.

I agree with Dust on this one...I think there are better ways to spend $15,000....A pink cadaver means nothing to the family.. They want their love one back alive and kicking...

Are the 21% who said "yes" serious, or are they just being PC? THINK about it......

I'll throw in my .02.....assuming someone is deaf - cannot hear - , not HOH .....

there are entirely TOO many things to worry about (for lack of a better word) on a scene to have to also worry about trying to get my partners attention by having to tap them or wonder if they can feel vibrations or something. seriously...can you picture it? Think about the times when you have a multi car MVC or something and people are scattered everywhere, asking questions, stating complaints, etc-patients, FD,PD etc. HOW is a deaf person going to handle a situation like that?? Or a medical call even....think about how much communication you have with your partner, family, patient...I cannot even imagine it. I try to picture a deaf crew member, and I can't get past what I'd do when the tones went off-go find partner, tap on shoulder--then what??

People who cannot or no longer do the job, need to bow out.....and those are the ones I respect. I do not believe the sense on entitlement some people feel....

My daughter has 20/200 vision, a fighter pilot she will never be. Should she expect to be let in to the service and fly planes because she wants to, because she loves it, because she wants to serve her country?? - absolutley not!

and that is meant with no disrespect at all.

I think asys said it best in his previous post.

Well said...... =D>

Give me a break! Asking a blanket question like that. Tell me exactly what you mean. Being deaf means so many things. i may be deaf to high tones but not low. I may be deaf but with the aid of electronics aids be able to hear. if I can't hear well enough to discern breath sounds its ok for me to work as a medic but how will i do my job.

quit being a fool ask a well defined question. until you do you poll has no merit

A fool i'm not my dear...I'm sorry if you are one of those people that can't hear but still insist on being in this profession...I had to deal with other emt's that couldnt hear a word i was saying and almost put a patients life at risk..People that can't hear shouldnt be doing this job..period...If you can hear by using a better scope and not totally deaf then i dont have a problem with you riding in the back of a ambulance..If i was blind should i be driving a taxi for a living? I dont think soo...

We all make mistakes....Nobody is 100% perfect.... :wink:

I got it!!!!

Bubble wrap jump suites, with hoods! Will that make everyone feel safe? :roll:

This is not considered a high risk job for no reason. Always be aware of what is going on around you and you will be as safe as you can get.

I agree totally....I really dont think we should be wearing helmets in the back of a ambulance...I wont use the word bus because Dust has no idea that bus means ambulance..lol lol ..Sorry Dust..

Only with Long Islanders.

Actually, I have a problem with EMT-CC's from any state.

And anybody who calls an ambulance a bus.

And anybody with an accent. :wink:

Dust you do make me laugh and thats a good thing. You have to be someone in their 50's because you are very set in your ways.You never know you might actually get to like a EMT- CC

Wrong. You are your own boss in your car (do New Yorkers even own cars?). You get to make the rules there. You are not your own boss at work. You follow the rules or you find another job.

And we're not talking about bus drivers. We're talking about paramedics. :roll:

Dust have you ever been to New York? Who is talking about bus drivers? Here in New York we call a ambulance a bus. Tell me Dust do u have a problem with New Yorkers?

Come on this is nuts...If i have to wear a helmet in the back of a ambulance then people should be wearing ones in their personal cars...There are more car accidents then bus accidents :roll:

dude it can be appropriate to do cpr on a person with a pulse. If the pulse is too slow or not perfusing well enough. do cpr.

Trust me the lady was fine...They even hooked her up and it keep saying no shock advised...the women was breathing..if anything they should of assisted her with breathing not do cpr...

"they don't belong in this profession" "they don't belong on the bus". I FIND THAT VERY DISRESPECTFUL

Can they work on the ambulance? No, I don't believe these individuals should be able to for the same reasons that have already been listed BUT saying that "they don't belong in this profession" "they don't belong on the ambulance" is very rude.

Yes I am on the road to becoming deaf myself which is why I'm responding to this post. My months (hope years) are numbered and the day that I realized I can no longer provide a 100% accurate reading I will pull myself off the units but it doesn't mean I DON'T BELONG IN THE PROFESSION. :evil:

We dont mean to be disrespectful to anyone that is deaf or hoh but we are just expressing how we feel about this issue... :roll: I guess because i had to work with someone who was deaf and screwed up on almost every call, i cant help but to feel this way.

Yes. But it darn sure didn't come from paramedic or EMT school. It came from nursing school and years of hospital practice.

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I agree with you that there are emt/medics that are not well trained...I work in a nursing home for my day job and i also see lpn/rn not knowing how to give pt care..I saw one nurse doing cpr on someone with a pulse.....

I agree. But only if the attending medic has both the education and common sense necessary to make that determination. Currently, very few do. It would require an entire new addition to the curriculum. And when considering additions to the curriculum, apparently this one has never come up. Or else somebody found it too insignificant to consider.

You have to remember, there are forces out there who fight every addition to the curriculum tooth and nail because they don't want their firefighters spending so long in school. Something has got to be pretty critically significant before it gets in.

I must ask you this Dust....Do you have the common sense or education to know if its ok to give someone water? You seem to think that most people wheter they are medics or emt's lack education... :roll:

I believe the CC stands for "cheap certificate" since it is considerably cheaper and faster than a real paramedic school.

Or it might actually mean "can't certify" since the National Registry and most other states won't recognize it. 8)

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Oh Dust you really hurt my feelings.....NOT...

I'm a EMT CC for about 6 months now.....Loving it.............

I hear where you are coming from.....I just became a EMT CC about 6 months ago...My neighbor next door is a 95 yr old women..Never seen her before until January 28, 2006......I was getting ready for the EMS expo and i step outdoors to see the temp...All of a sudden this lady is waveing to me to come over that her friend can't breath...My pager goes off and i go to look realizing that it was for my neighbor...I grab my medical bag and run into the house...Only to find this 95yr old women sitting in her chair with her mouth wide open...She was already having agonal respiration's...3 of the neighbors were staring at me and telling me to please help her...My mind went completely blank and thank God 2 EMT's came into the house to help me...I didnt know what to do first...I know airway, breathing , and circulation...Everything was happening soo fast...I just said LETS GO...COME ON.....Soo we got her onto a stair chair and then out to the stretcher and into the bus...In the bus we bagged her and i was soo nervous that my hands wouldnt stop shaking...I was losing her very quickly...We are only 4 blocks from the hospital thank God...As soon as i got her through the ER doors she lost her pulse...Not to say she didnt make it..Everyday since January 28, 2005 i have to face the family..They see me come home and come over to ask more and more questions...I was soo upset for days about losing this women..I wanted to give it all up...I realized that i had someone life in my hands and couldnt save her..All i can say is not to give up.....We all make mistakes and hopefully it doesnt cost someone their life...Today i have become a stronger and more confident EMT CC then i was before...I go on calls now saying to myself nothing can be as bad as that call i had with the 95 yr old women with agonal respiration's....

I cant handle having someone chuck up on the bus...Whats up with these small little bags they gave us to hand to a pt that is vomiting...They miss the bag and its all over the floor of the bus..I cant even hear the sound...I almost let go one day and i will never forget how fast i ran off that bus...Between the heat and the smell of puke....OH PLEASE.....

Brady and Mosby both publish "case-based" patient management books. Both have some good scenarios in them, but I'll be dipped if I can't find the titles for them. Might I suggest a "Google" search? Just a thought.

Ok cool...Thanks....

I was wondering the same thing...Thanks for posting that question...