spenac Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Meh... he was set up. I bought extra books just to help him out. Dust I only wish we knew for sure. When you read whats on the internet about it, you can see how easy it would have been to be set up, but also you hope there was more evidence than we have all seen since he was convicted. As far as EKG books go this is best of the many I have studied. But if he did it I still think money should get put into a fund for child victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 But if he did it I still think money should get put into a fund for child victims. Victims of what? For what purpose? He didn't victimise any children. Why should he pay anything to anybody? He paid his debt to society. That's more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyM83 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Meh... he was set up. I bought extra books just to help him out. Elaborate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splitintlemt Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Seriously, if you are referring to the Huszaar book, then yeah, ditch it for the Dubin Book, too complicated if your just setting out that's the exact book i'm using and it's very frustrating (huszar), still in the first couple of chapters and yeah... all day at work studying (between calls) and still it's not making very much sense. im buyin a copy of the dubin book riiighht now. anyway good luck with the new book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenac Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Victims of what? For what purpose? He didn't victimize any children. Why should he pay anything to anybody? He paid his debt to society. That's more than enough. According to reports he had child porn, if true he was part of victimizing children even if he did not touch them. If you harm those that can not protect themselves in my opinion you can never repay your debt. But again great book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 According to reports he had child porn... Not hardly. You didn't read the entire report. Regardless, I don't buy your theory. But yeah, awesome book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenac Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Not hardly. You didn't read the entire report. Regardless, I don't buy your theory. But yeah, awesome book. Can you provide us with more info please? All reports I have found say he was busted with child porn. If he doesn't deserve that label I would hate to use it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Can you provide us with more info please? All reports I have found say he was busted with child porn. If he doesn't deserve that label I would hate to use it. Thanks Exactly. It's typical witch hunt style labelling that the federal government loves to pull, and the media loves to sensationalise. So here's what he pled to; he had consensual sex with a 16 year old girl and her 17 year old friend. Contrary to popular ignorance, that's completely legal in all but a handful of states, and in most countries, including our neighbours to the north and south. But, although the law may allow you to have sex with 16 and 17 year olds, federal law does not allow you to take nude pictures of them. There was no state prosecution, because they knew they had nothing. Just federal prosecution for "Child Pornography" and drug charges. Let's get real. Seventeen year olds are fighting in the military. They are not "children." Neither are 16 year olds. Is he a weird dude who was into some kinky stuff? Sure, I'll give you that. But to toss the "child predator" and "child pornography" terms around that loosely is to cheapen their meanings, which is a disservice to all real victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenac Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Exactly. It's typical witch hunt style labelling that the federal government loves to pull, and the media loves to sensationalise. So here's what he pled to; he had consensual sex with a 16 year old girl and her 17 year old friend. Contrary to popular ignorance, that's completely legal in all but a handful of states, and in most countries, including our neighbours to the north and south. But, although the law may allow you to have sex with 16 and 17 year olds, federal law does not allow you to take nude pictures of them. There was no state prosecution, because they knew they had nothing. Just federal prosecution for "Child Pornography" and drug charges. Let's get real. Seventeen year olds are fighting in the military. They are not "children." Neither are 16 year olds. Is he a weird dude who was into some kinky stuff? Sure, I'll give you that. But to toss the "child predator" and "child pornography" terms around that loosely is to cheapen their meanings, which is a disservice to all real victims. Thanks. That clears up some questions. Mexico last I heard age of consent was 12, and I have transported 12 year olds to the hospital in active labor. Initially that is a shock, but when we look back just a few decades ago in the USA a girl was an old maid if not married by 14-16. Personally as a parent I'd be chopping some old dudes pecker off if he came near my daughter even if she was 16 or 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Personally as a parent I'd be chopping some old dudes pecker off if he came near my daughter even if she was 16 or 17. Unfortunately for you, you think like an old fashioned dad. Too many fathers today think like pimps. The first thing that crosses their mind is, "I wonder how much money I can get out of this guy?" As if the money does anything to right a wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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