Michael Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 [web:096fcd4374]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036629/Surgeons-survival-bonus-time-save-patients-life.html[/web:096fcd4374] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyM83 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 That might actually be a good thing. If patient care isn't incentive enough, maybe money will be. They'll still get paid either way, so the concern about doctors not doing risky procedures shouldn't be an issue. This would be a bonus on top of that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Star Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 That might actually be a good thing. If patient care isn't incentive enough, maybe money will be. They'll still get paid either way, so the concern about doctors not doing risky procedures shouldn't be an issue. This would be a bonus on top of that.... If patient care isn't enough, then they should get the hell out of the medical field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itku2er Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 If patient care isn't enough, then they should get the hell out of the medical field! Both of you have good points PATIENT CARE should be the top of the list for any medical professional, but sadly at times its not. The bottom line in todays society is the money. Money makes the world go round. But I would interested in knowing if the patient care of these patients went up, I mean the Surgeon that does the surgery does everything right extra careful and nothing goes wrong durning the surgery. You get the patient on the floor and one lazy non caring nurse can mess that up for the patient and the MD. It takes a whole health care team to get from point A to point B. Will the whole Health Care team that cared for that patient get extra too? If not it could make for a lot of bitterness and resentment from the people not getting anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougd Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 and one lazy non caring nurse Does she call herself Terr? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher.Collins Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Makes me think of a certain (to remain unnamed) hospital in my area. They downgraded from a Level II trauma center because they couldnt get enough surgeons to work the night shift. I mean, if I were a Doctor.... Id make myself available whenever physically possible. Of course Id need time for family and rest, but if I wernt ready to make a sacrifice then I wouldnt be a Doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itku2er Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Does she call herself Terr? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Another TERR fan I see....... and would you like your dog house beside spenac's? :wink: :wink: :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougd Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I mean, if I were a Doctor.... Id make myself available whenever physically possible. Of course Id need time for family and rest, but if I wernt ready to make a sacrifice then I wouldnt be a Doctor. Jobs shouldn't be about sacrifice nor should they be about being available "whenever physically possible." When I was your age, I lived for work and it wasn't uncommon for me to be working 60-80 hours a week - and this was for a salary job based off a 40 hour work week. These days, I work to live. My priorities have shifted and when you realize that you're going to work for the rest of your life and there are so many other things that are more important - you start to cherish the time you have off and away from it all. (Although my girlfriend would probably tell you that I'm a workaholic still - but at least doing the things I want to do now.) But getting back to your Doctor comment: If I spent a cool quarter-million or more on my education, not to mention 8 years of my life on getting run like a dog, dealing with megalomaniacs for instructors, insane shifts, and VERY rigorous studies - I'd be confident telling you I sacrificed enough already. Screw the night shift. (Wow! Did I really just write a post that started with, "When I was your age?" :shock: I'm officially getting old... just put me out of my misery! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher.Collins Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I personally couldnt see spending all that money and time just to do everything else at my convience. Part of getting a job is doing something for them in return... in my humble opinion. Afterall, they coulda put all that to waste and not hire you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougd Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I personally couldnt see spending all that money and time just to do everything else at my convience. Part of getting a job is doing something for them in return... in my humble opinion. I had a professor once who liked to tell all of students about how jobs work: An employer agrees to pay the minimum amount of money they can to get the employee to show up every day and put up with the crap that is dished out. In return, the employee does the minimum amount of work required to keep said job and paycheck. When either of those competing interests get out of balance, the employee and the employer usually part ways. At the time, most of us scoffed at that. After all, I think I'm a hard worker and want to get ahead and do a good job, so I should be doing something for them in return, right? Get laid off from a job that you poured your heart and soul in to and you learn there's no loyalty there regardless as soon as there's a way to find someone who can do your job cheaper. At the end of the day, your doing the best job you can do in return for your paycheck IS doing something for them in return. It's making them money at the cost of your time. That's the arrangement you sign up for when you take the job. If you want to work for free, more power to you, but that certainly isn't the path to financial freedom. Look, I don't want to sound jaded. (Too late?) I'm just trying to give you a free lesson here. You're a smart guy and if you're anything like me you're going to roll your eyes at this and continue to shape your own opinions through your own experiences - and that's ok, too. As for the hospital in your area - there could be a variety of reasons that those surgeons left. Poor pay. Poor management. Or perhaps the hospital just didn't want to spend the money anymore because they didn't feel it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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