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Remote Industrial Medics

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Hey Gang;

I've been offered an opportunity to make a presentation to a mining consortium for the provision of medical personnel to the mines in the area. Problem is, this is unexplored territory for me. Last time I did anything like this was as an employee, 25 years ago.

For those of you who are involved in the industrial medical aspect, how do things work for you? Who provides housing, the mine? Your company? How about transportation? Any special benefits? Perks?

I expect that my proposal is going to involve a basic service at a base price with customization options available, each at an extra cost.

Any advice from someone with experience in this would be a great help.

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Sorry I can't help you with any of your questions, but I just wanted to say that you should keep us updated on whether you end up getting a contract and are looking for paramedics! Good luck!

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I should mention as well that the mines are remote and the shift would be something along the lines of 7 on 24 hour call 7 off in the middle of nowhere. Bright side is that the high end of my proposal includes a Helicopter. :)

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I should mention as well that the mines are remote and the shift would be something along the lines of 7 on 24 hour call 7 off in the middle of nowhere. Bright side is that the high end of my proposal includes a Helicopter. :)

You need to talk to Squint.

Last time I provided private ALS coverage I was making $625/day based on a 12 hour day. 24 hour a day coverage would obviously require a commiserate increase in compensation.

Are you looking at an expanded scope situation? IE suturing, antibiotics etc. with telemedicine available.

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Unfortunately our college won't allow an increase in scope like this, Fortunately they are looking at an overall scope review to match the NOCPs closer. I'll give Wilf a call.

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Just make sure that you have the internet and it better be fast. We don't want your medics to suffer without porn like Dwayne has.

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Damn straight...satellite TV too with all the porn channels.

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maybe not that blatant.

But DWAYNE, are you reading this, you might want to see about contracting out with Kat's team. Doesn't seem that you will have any problems with your internet surfing on his outfit.

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Kat, I'll walk off of this project tomorrow and come to work for you...

I'm not sure about Canada, but in most of the rest of the world it works kind of like this...

Usually the project puts constructs housing, though the level of housing varies greatly. Everywhere that I've been the medics have been considered 'management' with the perks that that entails. Usually other than getting better housing it entails nothing, as it should.

Meals are also provided by the project site. At the company that I work for now, my company arranges and pays for all travel and then bills it back to the project, with a profit I believe. Most everywhere except here if a person travels more than 4hrs by air then they travel buisness class. (Yeah, I've never landed one of those gigs.)

One issue that I see that will hinder you getting decent medics is having them take a break onsite. That's no break man. If you want your medics to be mental and emotionally healthy, then send them home. Work them 4-6 weeks without a break, but then bring in someone else and send them home to the bars, and women, and their families. Thinking of having them break onsite kind of shows that you don't really understand the stress of working remotely (that is the appearance that it gives to anyone considering working for you). I would never trust a company that expected me to do so. They are just too removed from the realities of the job to have any idea how to be trustworthy. Know what I mean?

I'll respond more in private, staying well within the confines of my contractual obligations of non disclosure of course... :-)

Or, if you want, I can give you a number to call..it'll cost you about $1/min, best case, but I'd be happy to talk to you if that would help?

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4 - 6 weeks is a little long...I was leaning toward the 7 day in 7 out scenario. Average pay for something like this seems to be in the 600 - 750/day area. Onsite housing and a company vehicle...just gotta decide if the housing will be an atco trailer or something a little nicer. Modular home perhaps. I also need to get a clear definition of what the mines will want from their medical staff. Drug Tests? Immunizations? medical emergencies? Basically, will there be a clinic or just on call for medical emergencies with rapid transport available if needed.

Lots of questions will be asked at the meeting, I just want to be prepared to direct the conversation appropriately with my answers to them and their answers to me.

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Most medics that I know HATE those schedules...capitals appropriate. It just doesn't allow enough quality time at home. By the time you travel in, and travel out, you've lost most of two days, and five days isn't much time...plus, on a remote site there is a definite advantage to knowing your patients, and that happens best in an extended time...The main reason that most of us stay with these gigs is that it gives us a chunk of time at home to travel, dink around, whatever...

99% of what's going to happen in these places, the care provided, is going to be emotional, and OTC drugs...People need to know their medic if they're going to accept emotional support from them. Plus I'll bet most others on site aren't working a 7/7 schedule, and it can create hard feelings if your medic is the only one doing so. AND, the travel into and out of such places can be really expensive, doing it weekly instead of monthly adds up at the end of the year to a ton of cash...

It sounds as if you're trying to imagine this from a street medic's point of view. But if you intend to hire true, experienced remote medics instead of a bunch of your buddies, then you need to shift your thinking, in my opinion...

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Thanks Bro I appreciate the input...perhaps tying the medic's rotation to the same as the mine would be the best option. I'll have to determine what that sort of rotation would look like. All I know is that my brother works for Syncrude in the Oil Sands and is 7 on 7 off, so I was working with that. Then again, the medics I was looking to hire would only have a few hours of travel time...not days.

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Yeah, that probably makes a difference. And maybe 7/7 is standard there and the contracting company can just piggyback your guys with theirs? Not trying to be a know it all my friend..just tossing out ideas...where do I submit my CV? :-)

Someone told me, Moebs maybe?, that they don't have the same requirements for remote work up there and hire American medics often...Just a thought...

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Snicker, don't get yer panties in a bunch yet....this is something that likely won't occur for a few years yet.

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Please don't say panties....

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A cosin of mine works out there and she is required to do the drug tests. I do believe they are random.

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When I was stationed in Western Australia a LONG time ago, The mining companies up on the north west coast, had onsite medical staff that basically rotated in & out on a 30 day basis.

They had a mobile home that included quarters on one end and an office / clinic on the other. The medics did all care available at the site 24 /7 for their time on location.

They did emergent care, daily sick call, drug & alcohol testing ,semi annual physicals ,eye exams and pretty much anything else the company wanted.

Anything they were not capable of treating required the flying doctor service to come in & take them out to Darwin or down to Perth.

All housing , meals,& transportation were provided by the company contracting the services.

At that time 30 something years ago it paid in the neighborhood of 75K plus all benefits & expenses.

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Thanks Bro I appreciate the input...perhaps tying the medic's rotation to the same as the mine would be the best option. I'll have to determine what that sort of rotation would look like. All I know is that my brother works for Syncrude in the Oil Sands and is 7 on 7 off, so I was working with that. Then again, the medics I was looking to hire would only have a few hours of travel time...not days.

That would certainly be my suggestion. In my experience remote mines often run a 2-3 weeks on, 2-3 weeks off type rotation. Less remote mines (no on site crew housing) frequently run a 4 days on, 4 days off rotation (any medic who usually works ambulance will be familiar).

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Island EMT called it.

Everything that I have been reading online in the various overseas job listings is the same. Extended on/off duty time doing just about anything that you can think of. Housing included. Food not always listed as being included or not. Depends on how remote.

I know that working where I am currently, we do normal type rotations since we are hospital based EMS. Three on/three off 12 hour shifts. Hospital covers everything except food, wifi, phones, and outside transportation. Salary is pretty good (no taxes).

A lot will depend on where you will be, and what it is they want from you.

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I'll check back on this from time to time. A friend of mine does this kind of work on remote land drilling sites in Louisiana. 2 weeks on/ 2 off. The pay isn't what I would need it to be. I'm looking for a retirement gig, will need it in about a year and a half. I have friends at offshore companies who are making really good pay, working one month on, one month off. The best food. All travel paid, profit sharing. BUt I'd rather stay on solid ground.

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If you are looking for a retirement gig, then your best bet is an overseas job. specifically, the Middle East.

Most jobs here are tax-free if you are working for a foreign company, or government agency. There are lots of different types. If you are former military, you can get a job doing PSD work in Iraq or A-stan. If you want something a little slower, check any of the other countries over here. I have seen ads for major hotels and theme parks looking for medics.

One problem developing is that many of the countries, Saudi Arabia specifically, are asking for Batchelor's and Master's degrees in "Paramedicine," EMS, etc.

Australia is looking for medics for mining jobs, but with the exchange rate, it may not be worth it. Malaysia, and some other Pacific rim places are also looking for medics.

Recently, there have been many listings for austere locations in Africa.

Just do a Google search for "overseas paramedic jobs." You will be amazed.

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Here is an example I found just this morning. I withheld the contact info. You can pm me if interested.

ILS Paramedic Required Urgently In Abu Dhabi

Yas Water Park are urgently looking to appoint a suitably qualified and experienced ILS for a full time position

Salary is 14,000 AED (R28,000) Monthly negotiable, plus expat benefits

Please send CV's to Sanet Meyer at

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