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Ill definitely get back to you on the final numbers for the drug count. wouldnt be surprised if he gave me the total number of the drugs not the different kinds. And for that I do apologize

They do have a lot of meds but not near what he told you. There is close to 100 meds carried on the ambulance including the controlled medicine. They have about 10 meds that are control and must be kept under lock. I no longer know anyone there so I can not get a current list for you. Keep in mind they are a small very remote location where nearest help is more than an hour away.

Remember every thing in Texas is bigger, including the tall tales.

@DFIB The great thing about Texas is services with a good active medical director all levels receive more education and thus are allowed to do more to benefit the patient prior to getting them to the hospital. There are also a number of services that practice a treat and release program rather than transporting all patients. But there are also some medical directors that really just make the ambulance be not much more than a mode of transportation.

If it turns out to be something bad then the accident may have been a blessing in disguise as it allowed early detection. But do not fret yet as it may be something of no concern. Do not worry about what you have no control of. Worry about stopping smoking, something you do have control of. Hang in there I am sure all are hoping that these findings are invalid.

I applaud Dr Tober and hope this idiotic attempt to avoid education and practice keeps this group of fire fighters from having access to advanced procedures.

Tremendous ideal mate. It saddens me to see so many "so called educated" people that are so afraid to learn a new language that they choose to ridicule rather than attempt. In my travels many poor third world people speak multiple languages yet in the US most do not even speak one language properly. I guess the riches here just take away the motivation to advance our minds. I hope all take advantage of this great free opportunity to improve themselves and their patient communications.

It is unacceptable that fellow professionals would degrade one another even if in another specialty.

This is some very disturbing discussions. A professional has to live up to higher standards. They must be able to understand that their actions reflect directly on their service even when off duty, but especially when easily identifiable equipment is involved. All that went outside and did not try and stop this photo from happening should be fired and stripped of their peace officer certification.

I saw a name that I think all posters and lurkers such as my self have gotten familiar with on another site contemplating leaving EMS. So is this the contraversial spenac from here or another spenac?

http://www.911ace.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&a...mp;p=2497#p2497

[web]http://www.911ace.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=426&p=2497#p2497[/web]

The obvious solution is stop this waste. It benefits no one. It places the public at greater risk. Fire should only respond when need for extrication. All these responses are not good for the environment either. I am sure many areas will start putting an end to the stupidity due to high fuel costs.

Not disputing that. However, I presented that example to prove JP wrong.

My dear friend is it not obvious that this would never have been a problem had EMS received a proper budget rather than being an after thought.

It also occurs to me that if they transported her in a fire truck there may have been some patient transport laws violated.

If only patients were the priority rather than property funding would be greatly shifted. But sadly in the day we live in many value property more than life, thus fire will always be overly funded while patients and EMS suffer.

Threats. That is totally unprofessional.

Rednecks are the ultimate non-professionals. To many in our field act like non professionals and give us a bad name.

What is professional EMS? It sure aint where this topic went. To be nice to the new guy why don't we try and get back on topic.

As spenac asked could we please return to the important topic.

Joshing some person is fine, within bounds. Be careful with new people as you do not know their past and they may be hurt or kick your a.. . Pardon my vulgar reference please.

Bravo to all who strive to put an end to the practice that is destroying our profession. There is no justification to have a volunteer service.

It is admiral that people work on their skills, but are there not many more important skills to practice?

I don't think I am a killjoy, I just stated an opinion, not a cast iron order. If you are going to do it, you will. I would not. Personal choice, is all.

My friend I am sure they are only joshing. It would be very unprofessional to pull any of the above.

Thank you all for pointing out the mistake I had already corrected. Being a professional also requires that we admit mistakes and do what we can to correct them. I will work harder so I can get out of the negative score side.

Geeze... you must not have been in EMS (or on the Internet) for very long if any of this shocks you. We tried to get the webmaster to change the site motto from "bringing us all together" to "Let's get ready to rumble!" but he was afraid of scaring people like you away.

Welcome aboard. Come get a piece of the action!

Well thank you sir, I think.

Well thank you sir. I can not accept all credit. I forgot to list the definition, while very appropriate, came from an unreliable source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional

I think the author put it very well.

I am an EMS Professional. I am shocked in the time I have lurked around this site to see how thin skinned some are and also how quick people here are to attack anyone that has a different opinion. Both types need to change so they can help EMS become a true profession.

an EMS Professional

I am totally disgusted with the idea that a service would require all callers to be transported. Failure to be able to use even basic elementary education to determine that a person has no need to be taken by ambulance is a slap in the face to anyone that wants to be considered as an EMS professional.

Professionals do not display anything that could dishonor themselves or their chosen profession. Keep the tatoos and other crap covered. Be clean shaven, no facial hair male or female. Females only 1 earring if any per ear, males no earrings. Males short haircuts, Females keep hair up out of the way. Keep a clean spare uniform with you at all times. Just a few rules as we look to become professionals.

If you want to be an individual do it on your time.

A professional can be defined as:

a worker required to possess a large body of knowledge derived from extensive academic study, with the training almost always formalized.

Professions are at least to a degree self-regulating, in that they control the training and evaluation processes that admit new persons to the field, and in judging whether the work done by their members is up to standard. This differs from other kinds of work where regulation (if considered necessary) is imposed by the state, or where official quality standards are often lacking. Professions have some historical links to guilds in these regards.

Professionals usually have autonomy in the workplace—they are expected to utilize their independent judgement and professional ethics in carrying out their responsibilities. This holds true even if they are employees instead of working on their own. Typically a professional provides a service (in exchange for payment or salary), in accordance with established protocols for licensing, ethics, procedures, standards of service and training / certification.

The above definitions were echoed by economist and sociologist Max Weber, who noted that professions are defined by the power to exclude and control admission to the profession, as well as by the development of a particular vocabulary specific to the occupation, and at least somewhat incomprehensible to outsiders

So an EMS professional should have education, be able to work w/o immediate supervision, have to attain and maintain certification as required by a group other than government.

Obviously changes are needed for us to meet that definition.

So what is professional EMS? Only a dream.