jon_ems_boi

If you live in indiana there you can see a list of all the EMS training programs starting by going to the state web site and clicking on dept. of home land security....

So i pose a new question for this tread.. based on what everyone is saying.. what is the point of an emt-b.. and it please do not say "drive". I believe that on all 911 ambulances there should be a medic, but that is just not possible. There is not enough man power and money in some areas for that.

You can't help people who don't think they need help. If somebody is really convinced that their 3 week first aid course (EMT- makes them an educated critical thinker, capable of medically assessing people's illnesses and determining their medical needs, then that person needs a lot more than any professional guidance we can give them. They need a reality check.

The first step towards recovery is admitting you have a problem.

Funny thing is, I have never heard somebody with an advanced education make these same silly assertions. Not once have I ever heard a medic say, "Wow, that was a waste of time. I already knew all this from EMT school!" And I never heard a nurse say, "wow that was a waste of time. I already knew all that from paramedic school!"

I am not arguing the fact that a medic is more highly trained. However I do not know where you live, but i do not =know that where i live the above mentioned course is a 1st responder course for our fire departments. i know that is some areas an EMT-B can do no more that put 02 on someone and wish them the best of luck. but where i live we take a Year long course, or at least that is what most EMT's I know had to do. WE do preform some skills that in other areas of the country are considered to be advanced skills.

I will give you that there are those people out there who think after being an EMT they are a doctor and can save the world. I am very aware of the fact that i am limited in what i can do for my pt's. and if i could go be a medic tomorrow I would. I am often fustrated that i know , in some cases, what my pt needs and i know that the only person in the field that can do that is a medic. so there in lies my point, that i know when a medic is needed. I am not saying, mind you, that I am god and I have a wonderful education in ems behind me. I am saying that i have been in this career field long enough to know a thing or two about a thing or two that I am not an idiot. thats all I want medics to admit that not all emt's are complete morons.

My reason for this post was to draw attention that a lot of bls providers need to train there crews to asses pt's better.... and i can not agree that it takes a medic to decide if a medic is needed i know when i have a pt with non life-threatening complaints i do not need a medic i do not need a "Paragod" or "water walker" as we would call your kind.. to tell me just because i am an emt-b that i can not do my job with out your supervision...... you forget that you started at the same place as the rest of us bls people...... all i have to say is there are some medics not all i must add that just need to get over them selves

JUst a question for all here....

I work for a very rural BLS service, we have no hsptl in our county, and the nearest hsptl is apx 25-35 minutes aways. If pt is in need of als care we can call the hsptl for an intercept with medic, wich i am sure is a normal thing for BLS. But here is the question. Are medics call to much in cases where they are not needed? I have found that there are cases that EMT-B's call for medics just because they are not confident in there own skill level. What is it like where you are if you work for a BLS service?

Or way .. is to splint in position you found injury.. the drive like hell to the hsplt so there will be no further damage...

The question is, do we WANT to know? :?

The way I see it, everybody hates somebody. Why shouldn't it be gays?

That is totaly unfair to single out one group, i do not care if you are gay, str8, bi, black, jew or other wise.

Thats not to funny .. we minute men can not help it rotfl!!!!

I have had similar situations... however i do not let the pt in the ambulance, i simply explained that this was not an emergency situation and that we could not transport a person for lunch.. i was concerned that the pt hay have a bs problem or hear trauma as well as any good emt would..... alzheimer was also a thought that entered my head.....

My class was at an academy just for ems and nurses, i paid a total of $600.00 that included the cost of books and the cost of lab fees i had to pay

This is true. my mother always told me there are two things you never talk to your friends about... religion and politics. but who i fall in love with is neither of those things. no more than who you fall in love with is, however i think we are getting away from the topic. I was wanting to know what people would think if they had to have a GLBT ( gay , lesbian, bi sexual, transgenderd) partner... especially if you have to sleep in the same room with them while on call.

I know that i have had it very easy being an out gay male in this career. i work for a small service and they are all very excepting of my sexuality. I was just wondering if this was the norm or if i am the exception to the rule. And is it more difficult to be gay/lesbian on a fire department???

WEll I do not know if this counts.. but i had a call once where a 400lb woman asked me to please remove the popsicle sticks from her ass......

I agree that the lines on these shirt do make us look non-professional, however it is good humor with in the community, with that being said..... the best t-shirt i have seen says...."EMS, helping stupid people repeat there mistakes since 1962"