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[jollys_suicide_medic_nick]

im just courius to see what other states EMT-B's can do 12 leads and blind intubation?

[Just Plain Ruff]

I know Missouri EMT-B's cannot.

Are you saying that there are states out there that allow the EMT-B's to do Blind Intubations and 12 Lead EKG's

[somedic]

jollysuicide: Blind intubations? Why would any regulating agency in the US allow EMTs to try to intubate without going the full route and giving them the tool (larygoscope) to do it with?

12lead EKGs: Why would a EMT-B be trained to read these? They cannot do anything for the paitent except call for ALS back-up anyway. Where do you practice? What are EMTs allowed to do there?

Somedic

[Just Plain Ruff]

I agree with you Somedic. I think that it is foolish to allow and EMT-B to do either of those things. It is one thing to have the tool but you also have to be able to provide care for what that tool shows you.

What I wonder actually with the blind intubation the poster really meant the placement of another airway adjunct rather than blind intubation????

Original poster, please clarify

[somedic]

Ruff: That would make more sense. EMTs, inmy oppinion could be trained to drop LMAs, combitubes, and other types of airway adjuncts without too much difficulty.

Somedic

[Just Plain Ruff]

But to train them to read a 12 lead would be counter intuitive. What good is a tool if you cannot fix what you find wrong with the original tool.

[somedic]

Ruff: Yep you are right. 12 leads for EMTs is like giving giving the space shuttle program and NASA to a country like Ethiopia.

Somedic

[Ridryder 911]

I imagine the original poster meant to obtain XII leads, and as well blind intubation by use of LMA's etc.. as others describe.

I agree, it would be non-beneficial to "train" to do advanced procedures without the full benefit.

R/r 911

[Just Plain Ruff]

This is where clarity really counts.

[medic001918]

Here we go again with BLS providers being able to perform intubation and other ALS interventions. Hasn't this topic been beat to death enough on these forums? Services that want to provide ALS interventions should employ ALS providers. No short cuts.

Shane

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