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How I hate thee firefighters, let me count the ways....


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Looks like the swingin's already been had :roll:

Quint, I tend to come off a bit more 'harsh' than I intend. And all of those things I brought up I've recently mentioned to a few members of a local fire department that we work with.

Also: While working on a critical patient, it might not be the best idea right that second to ask "Hey, can I trade this D cylinder with yours?"

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For the most part I really have no problems with our fire department, but I'll list the few I've came across.

* Gentlemen, When a patient verbalizes left hip pain and it's extroverted, she can't straighten it, nor can she be moved without pain. It's probably broken. Therefore, when we've slid her from the chair to the cot...don't grab her left foot and swing it up onto the cot. You can do that with difficulty breating..BUT NOT A BROKEN HIP.

* I realize you extricate for us, and I like that. But if I come up to hold C-spine on MY patient...don't give me lip. Also, when I give you advice on the easiest way to get them out of the car...I'm not looking to yank them out....C-spine implications are just that...we don't yank anyone from anything

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You know what surprises me about firefighters? When people ask them the most disturbing thing about their job, they never, ever, ever say "Being the subject of gay porn." I mean, that would disturb me, anyway... To each his own, I guess.

Ahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahha 8)

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Rant on:

And another thing. Do not start defib protocols just because dispatch said the PT was VSA (vital signs absent). You still have to check for a pulse and spontaneous respirations. Here's a tip...if they are present DON'T start CPR. An yes, WE will bear the brunt of the malpractice suit because YOU flucked up. I will never ever do any treatment (read: rapid extrication) based on your assessment alone. So don't go whining to my management that I don't take you seriously. There is a damn good reason for that.

Rant off.

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Know your job, and let me worry about mine. I really don't need a pop quiz on patient management every time I run a call with you, but thank you for the aggravation. :)

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Sounds like some people have a severe case of optical rectulosis. Lets try to remember we all have a niche to fill in the EMS world. Id love to hear the strings of complaints if on top of treating a car crash victim you had to extricate them and do traffic control all at the same time. If you always, always, always had to carry that morbidly obese patient yourself.

Howsabout instead of running them down and being obviously impatient with firefighters, you educate them? If they are doing something offensive or wrong, tell them. I know there has always been rivalry but were all in the same boat here.

We run training nights for the firefighters in our area. We hold them once a month and the night consists of a hour long lecture and then two hours of skills stations. Our relationship between fire and EMS has never been better and the firefighters even held a whole training day last month for EMS to try their hand at using fire equipment.

This is the exact same impatience shown towards students and newbies. How about instead of pissing and moaning you guys actually do something to improve things.

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After years of working EMS and watching the Fire Dept take on more and more EMS duties(minus the college training or Q & A)...last year while on police marine patrol we discovered a grass fire on shore....we call led for the fire dept to attend...when they got there we charged up our fire pump....and went at it....in all honestly we did dick to the fire...but wanna see some long faces....u know that thing where the bottom lip kinda quivers........ahhh good times

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