SSG G-man Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I read this earlier today and two things bothered me. 1. Some articles said the secret service tended to the man who was shot, and some say it was "emergency personnel". Lea Anne McBride, Cheney's spokesperson, says "Fortunately, the vice president has got a lot of medical people around him and so they were right there and probably more cautious than we would have been". I wasn't aware secret service qualified as "medical people". Now, who's doing the spinning? 2. The man who was shot "came up behind the vice president and the other hunter". When I say some one "came up" behind me, he's right behind me. Yet, he seems to have been pretty far away, judging by the description of his injuries. The quail Cheney was aiming for, which was too far away to notice him, flew from in front of him to behind him, flying low enough for him to accidentally shoot his companion. How high was the quail flying and how was Cheney able to track a small(?) quail but not see an adult man? And how frickin long does it take for him to take a shot? I guess the secret service agents could not be cross trained? No, I doubt the would far sighted enough to think, "If the POTUS or VPOTUS gets hurt, we should have someone with medical training nearby." I think after 1981, they might have learned something. Just my $.02 SARGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbsp Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 More news today: 1. Cheney's "medical people" weren't the secret service. He actually has a medical team travel with him, since he had 4 heart attacks in the past. The ones doing the spinning were the people who said it was the secret service tending to whittington. 2. "Behind" apparently was a relative term. Whittington was to the right of Cheney, and Cheney thought he was the one furthest to the right, which would have meant he had a clear shot. A search for "secret service paramedics" or similar queries yielded very few results. There apparently are secret service paramedics, but they seem to stick around federal buildings only. I apologize for my lack of knowledge. Btw, SSG G-man, if you want to use that logic, why don't they train teachers, soldiers, security guards, bus drivers, and police officers to be paramedics too? They certainly could. You would think after school shootings, wars, robberies, and other random emergencies that they might have learned something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I guess the secret service agents could not be cross trained? Sure, if you want half-assed "medics" with no ongoing experience working on you. That's even worse than training firemen to be paramedics! I wouldn't want half-assed bodyguards either. Every man gets a job. One job. This isn't the Special Forces where we have to maximize efficiency by giving everybody a couple of jobs. There is plenty of room for specialists on a presidential protection detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMed124 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 so? he shot a lawyer... what's all the fuss? every great idea starts with but a single step. less lawyers = more gooder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRPGfirerescuetech Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 1200 today : Lawyer had MI "due to birdshot" lasdt night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandaidpatrol Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 We pay for the VP to have a medical team... But a large percentage of the population is more than 30 minutes from Advanced Life Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 We pay for the VP to have a medical team... But a large percentage of the population is more than 30 minutes from Advanced Life Support. So then the statistics tell us two things: If you stay close to the vice-president, you're more likely to have ALS immediately available. But if you stay close to the vice-president, you're more likely to NEED ALS immediately available Can't win for losing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Plain Ruff Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 well the 2nd most important man in the US (some would argue that point) who has a significant medical history deserves to have a medical team near him. they don't want him to suffer the 30 minutes from ALS syndrome. I definately do not have a problem with him having a medical team with him 24 hours if needed. Seems only logical. The person who broke the news from the Corpus Christi News Collar or some tipsheet paper like that said and I try to quote "I was just sitting at my desk waiting for some news to come in and I got the call of a lifetime" "I heard the story and immediately knew I needed to start transcribing" She sounded like a truly green reporter but in a town the size of corpus christi I think that when important news like that breaks she becomes the hero. Really the only people trying to spin this and make it into a scandal is the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winyan Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Anyone know if Cheney had a non-resident licence or not? win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Star Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 That's even worse than training firemen to be paramedics! Whats your problem with Firefighter/EMT's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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