Happiness Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Just said nasty things so I deleted it all Edited October 7, 2011 by Happiness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lone Star Posted October 8, 2011 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2011 "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" It doesn't matter how deep you've paved the road with your 'good intentions', it's still the road to Hell.... First off, you stated that you administered the Nitro, then you change it to you 'helped him by getting it out of his pocket'. In the world of documentation, you're dispensing medication without a license, and THAT my friend is illegal. Secondly, in all your 'gear' that you have stashed in your personal vehicle, how much of it are you traned in using? How much education (aside from advanced reading the EMT books) do you have in interpreting your findings? How much of an assessment are you trained in performing? What education do you rely upon to interpret your findings there, and what education are you basing your planned course of treatments on? What equipment do you REALLY have available to you in case the patient needs more than band-aids and a c-collar? You jumped a call for the 'adrenaline rush' and you put yourself, your 'patient' and anyone that had to come rescue you and your patient at risk because you have no clue what you're doing! The fact that you 'snuck off' after the EMS crews took over (especially when they made it perfectly clear that they wanted to talk to you) shows that you KNEW that you did things wrong and didn't want to face the consequencs of your actions. This is NOT a 'good quality' for a future EMT to have! Compounding things is that you came to this forum and asked 'What did I do wrong?', and when your errors were pointed out; chose to try to 'justify' them and shif the focus from your screw-ups to blaming everyone that responded for being 'mean to you'. Another negative attribute. As has been pointed out by people who are much more intelligent than I am, you 'screwed the pooch' on this one, and all the heat you're taking is well earned. I've noticed that your story is starting to change from your initial post to the incarnation of the tale we see now. There are several facets of this whole incident that beg to be addressed: 1. DITCH THE SCANNER! It and your actions have already dumped you in a steaming pile of cow puckey, and potentially cost you everything you've ever HOPED to have (up to and including your dreams), and you could be facing jail time on several charges. 2. PUT THE 'GEAR' AWAY UNTIL YOU'RE EDUCATED AND TRAINED IN IT'S PROPER USE! Just because you've read a couple books doesn't qualify you to do anything more than stand at the edge of a scene and look at the pretty lights. The best way you can 'help' right now is to keep your cell phone bill paid so you can call 9-1-1, and get QUALIFIED/EDUCATED responders en route and on scene... 3. LEAVE MEDICATIONS ALONE! You're not qualified to administer drugs, or even assist in the administration of drugs. If you keep this up, you WILL find yourself in jail on some SERIOUS charges! 4. DROP THE RANDY/RACHEL RESCUE MENTALITY! This will only set you up to get sued, land in jail or injure/kill the person(s) that you're supposed to be helping, because you've got no education/training do do ANYTHING other than put a band-aid on a 'boo-boo'. 5. OWN YOUR FUCK-UPS! The sooner you start owning up to your mistakes, the sooner you can start learning that every action you do has consequences. Even the 'Good Samaritan Act' has limitations on what you can and cannot do. You've violated most of them; if I were you, I wouldn't expect that act to provide much cover from the shit-storm you've started. If you REALLY and truly want to help people, leave it alone until you've completed your education and training so that you can do it without doing more damage than you prevent.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BushyFromOz Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 That was my initial thought as well, I mean it has all the workings of a good whacker story. However, if that's not the case then I think everyone else summed up what you did wrong, and I'm not really one to be redundant. Agreed Between this and the off duty thread, this guy is either a serious whacker or just a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedygodzilla Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Hope you have learned from your post here. We are here to help. Sometimes you have to get hit by a "hammer" a few times to realize the big deal. Those nitro could of killed him. With significant internal injuries and a very potent vasodilator that equals vast uncontrolled internal bleeding which often leads to death. You may not of administered the nitro but you seem to be the inbetween goto for getting them. It seems from your earlier post that you have learned that nitro is for medicall chest pain not trauma chest pain. Very big difference. If you must listen to the scanner than use it as a tool to help you think of things. A call goes out for syncopal, you stay at home and think of what could of caused it, help it, and look it up in the book. I would not recommend responding unless you have the education and the backing of at least a volunteer department. I have learned a lot over the years here at emtcity. Please stay and become an active member and you will learn from the many wise here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
island emt Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 I look at it this way. What's done is done now lets educate him to prevent him doing this again and possibly hurting himself or others not tear him down. He'll resent you for that and do whatever he wants. I'm not going to say " hey buddy good job". I'm going to say " you had good intentions but this is the proper way to do it". Then he'll know he can look for and accept help from someone who will listen. Is this a forum to trash those who respect and want to do what we do or are we here to advise with our experience and help each other out. I pray that all is well for that patient but one thing I'm sure off is that patient was happy to have someone with him during a serious situation and provide some comfort knowing he wasn't alone. You can't change the past but you can prevent it from happening again. Maybe we should all sit around the campfire , hold hands and sing KUMBAYA ! The FNG knew what he did was wrong, came here hoping somebody would blow smoke up his ass and praise him for breaking the law and giving dangerous medical treatment, that he's not trained or licensed to provide. He got the necessary response from licensed professionals. Nothing more and nothing less.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGfirstresponder Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 I am glad I could help your egos feel better about yourselfs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happiness Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 now that avitar of FNG is going to offend many can anyone say why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Star Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I am glad I could help your egos feel better about yourselfs. This isn't about making ourselves feel better, it's about answering your question with HONESTY! now that avitar of FNG is going to offend many can anyone say why? *Lone Star raises his hand and impersonates Horseshack from "Welcome Back, Kotter"* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE1 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I am glad I could help your egos feel better about yourselfs. Stop acting like a petulant child. If this is all you got out of this, then you do have a lot to learn and not nearly mature enough to handle the responsibility that goes with the profession. You're dealing with people's lives here and if you screw up, it's not like a video game you can reset. You also need to learn the difference between arrogance/ego and confidence- one is about a false sense of self importance, and the other is about a self confidence that comes from education, training, and experience. In this context, one is dangerous, while the other is a valuable asset to have, but it is EARNED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakefire Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I tried to be nice before, but now im fed up. Sell the equipment and the books, and get your cash back from the school, you have no place in EMS. You have shown that your not the kind of EMT/Paramedic I would want treating a member of my family, and your not the kind of partner I could trust to work with. The John Wayne avatar is insensitive and just plain malicious. So yes im sure people are going to be mean to you. Before what you called "mean" was people trying to show you the gravity of your actions, yes you probably could have killed someone, that is a huge mistake, and you dont seem to understand that. Now because you obviously tried to make us all upset with your avatar, we will point out that your either stupid or you just dont care enough to be in this business. So this has never been an "ego boost" for us. But you certainly have a chip on your shoulder, and sooner or later that is going to slide over and take your head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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