tniuqs 189 Posted June 3, 2011 Question: Which areas of the pediatric patient's body needs to be exposed for medical attention and access? An EMS equipment sales person told me that both the chest and the abdomen need to be exposed because otherwise breathing would be impeded. How much truth is there? Also, what kind of medical proceedures are most often performed on pediatric patients? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flamingemt2011 102 Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Anyone who is anti-child restraint in an ambulance needs to get a copy of Dr. Nadine Levick's ambulance crash videos. She did a study for her masters degree where she crashed ambulances with child and adult crash dummies in the patient compartment. I cant find a link right this minute, but if you watch those videos you will never ride unrestrained in the box again. This is not her video, but you get the idea: Imagine mom and baby crushing the medic in the captain's chair. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5-TWXjDYqCk Edited June 5, 2011 by flamingemt2011 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flamingemt2011 102 Posted June 5, 2011 Here is one for all you who think the net on the squad bench will save you: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tniuqs 189 Posted June 5, 2011 Tniuqs: That's a good point. I will take disinfection into account as an aspect of cleanability. Right now, my only solution to not using Velcro is to use three-pronged plastic snapfit buckles. If anyone has better ideas, please post. Some late thought(s) 1- the "melon" size in relation to child's body is not similar proportion to adults, you may wish consider that in your calculations. 2- A firm back of head pad, the idea of using a soft one is all wrong in the Z shaped pad in KED. 3- I am a true believer that we should NOT use a chin strap (airway airway airway) as in the mandible is a movable joint for one, and if they puke they can't open their mouths so perhaps entertain a zygomatic arch type strap as in the Oregon Spinal System, part of the SKEDCO system, although this is demonstrated on the military educational video it (zygomatic arch spilt band) is not mentioned in any of the links I could locate on goggle. http://www.skedco.com/ 4- HAND restraints ... those lil buggers can extubate in a new york heart beat the second your looking some place else. I have on a back-country rescue (ATV I hate those POS things) used my OSS on a 10 year old .. and it worked out ok although blood soaked nylon straps needed a pressure washer and soaked in clavicide when cleaning up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waylon1226 2 Posted June 6, 2011 I'm working on a design that incorporates a hard backboard for immobilization and built-in straps for harness. How are backboards and straps cleaned? Hose? Washing machine? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYCEMS9115 26 Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) The dos and don'ts of transporting children in ambulances... http://www.ems1.com/pediatric-care/articles/756441-The-dos-and-donts-of-transporting-children-in-ambulances Pediatric patients need to be secured while in the Ambulance. As everyone should be in a MV... Edited June 11, 2011 by NYCEMS9115 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WolfmanHarris 91 Posted June 11, 2011 Anyone who is anti-child restraint in an ambulance needs to get a copy of Dr. Nadine Levick's ambulance crash videos. Good videos, but who the heck is "anti child restraint?" Certainly there's some bad practices out there, but I haven't seen a single person in this thread come out flippantly or seriously against. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatelilpeepees 41 Posted June 11, 2011 cant speak for why flaming said what he said, but just a few years back, our local Pediatric hospital starting filing formal complaints with the State anytime an EMS crew brought in an unrestrained child, it didnt take long to get some rules and behaviors changed. Apathy can be just as dangerous as deliberate action. Letting mom hold the child on her lap should no longer be allowed, and although no one has voiced their desire to strap babies to the hood of the truck, you are already hearing excuses about how you can not assess or treat a child appropriately in a restraint device. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waylon1226 2 Posted June 20, 2011 Hey guys, can you estimate the following figures for me? 1) How many calls does your service get per day? 2) How many pediatric calls does your service get per day? 3) How many pediatric calls require a full body restraint per day? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waylon1226 2 Posted July 29, 2011 What about a disposable restraint? One that is around $20 a pop and uses velcro. Would that be of any interest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
