the_rogueEMT Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I first want to say to all the EMS workers and ER workers "first do no harm" I say that because that healthcare reform was passed, and we need to realize that were looking out for the patient and not big gov't. With that said what are your views on Obamacare. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubanurse Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 As a 22-year-old American citizen with a "pre-existing" condition who has had to fight with insurance companies to receive basic medical care throughout my life, I am happy that it passed. I no longer have to live in fear that an ER visit or doctors visit won't be covered because of a condition beyond my control. No longer will insurance companies be able to drop me without warning for needing more medical care than most, and no longer will there be caps on how much they will pay. I am very excited to see the future and where this will go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don1977 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 .....*gets out the popcorn and pulls out a chair for this one*..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rogueEMT Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 .....*gets out the popcorn and pulls out a chair for this one*..... that figures...but I actually am not going to start anything...I stated my opinion and scubakate stated hers...that is why I started this thread...but by all means pull up a chair and watch the thread and maybe even comment if you want Don...unlike my gov't I don't force ppl to do anything 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don1977 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 that figures...but I actually am not going to start anything...I stated my opinion and scubakate stated hers...that is why I started this thread...but by all means pull up a chair and watch the thread and maybe even comment if you want Don...unlike my gov't I don't force ppl to do anything LOL......I won't comment, Ill just sit in cheap seats and watch!!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE1 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 We certainly needed to change things like covering preexisting conditions, but it's a HUGE leap from there to a move towards socialist type health care. This is about pushing an agenda, NOT about covering more people or saving money. Mandating insurance coverage, fining people for NOT having insurance- how does this help anyone except the insurance companies and the government? How does cutting Medicare funding help anyone? Once again, the middle class take the hit. The poor and ultra rich are the ones who always benefit most from any entitlement initiative. This is certainly historic, but not in a good way. Not a single Republican voted for this bill, 34 Democrats also thought it was a bad idea, and a whole bunch of Americans are not happy either. I hate to feel like I'm sporting a tin foil beanie, but based on recent events, you have to wonder. This isn't about health care, it's about a fundamental shift in how this country and our economy works, and our ideologies. Couple this with government take overs of student loans, auto makers, and financial institutions, and how can you not read more into this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcripp Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 My first thought was to pull up a seat next to Don... You want opinions...I'll stir the pot a little. I'm not sold on this reform nor am I sold on the fact that it is being touted as no additional cost to the taxpayer. Since I happen to be a taxpayer, I am concerned about that. But, what concerns me more than the reform is that we are looking at a way to add many, many others in to an already overtaxed healthcare system. If we are already short on healthcare workers, how do we expect to handle the influx? What's the plan on building up the infrastructure? If an average emergency department (ED) visit is 4 hours...what will it be when everyone feels they can go to the ED for minor issues? In this world of instant gratification expectation that we are seeing, who will ever want to make a doctor appointment to get that little toe looked at? In the pre-hospital area, for those who've previously held off calling 911 because of insurance reasons (and actually looked at the pros and cons of POV/Taxi vs. ambulance), does that now increase our workload? Not opposed to more work, but how can this possibly minimize EMS abuse? On second thought, Don...move over. I'm bringing the popcorn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asclepius Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) I no longer have to live in fear that an ER visit or doctors visit won't be covered because of a condition beyond my control. No, now you just have to live in fear of the federal government and the rationing that will certainly follow. Now you have to worry about the huge tax and fee increases that are absolutely going to have to take place for this to have any chance of being funded. Then you have to worry about whether or not there will be a doctor to see you, since now there will be huge shortages. This bill, did nothing for American's except complicate everything and make health care worse! <BR><BR>Sorry, I'm new to this place, but I have strong opinions. The vote last night was the worst day in American History. It's the beginning of the end of America as we know it, unless we all do something to stop it! Edited March 22, 2010 by Asclepius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE1 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I know we have a couple docs here and I would love to hear their perspective on this from an ER point of view. I heard a Family practice doc on the radio saying that they may be forced to stop accepting Medicare patients because reimbursement will only get worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rogueEMT Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 I would love to hear from the Dr.s in this forum as well cause there point of view would be nice to know....but like I stated when I first started this thread "first do no harm" I may not be cert'd yet but still I would treat the pt. no matter what the commander in chief said, yes he is the leader of this nation but he is ultimately not my boss and unless someone is holding a gun to my head saying do this and don't do this, that pt. will get the best treatment that I can provide at my level. Just for the record I am not cert'd as I said but I do have training as an EMT-B and as such I am still covered by the Good Samaritan Law 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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