JPINFV Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Looks like an ET tube holder. Notice that the plastic doesn't go all the way around the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSideBorderPatrol Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I agree with JPINFV. I DON'T see a collar, but I do see an ET tube holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firegirl147 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Looks like an ET tube holder. Notice that the plastic doesn't go all the way around the head. Yes, I believe you are correct. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBEMT Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Some outlets reporting a possible Demerol OD. Wonder if anybody tried Narcan...? Edited June 26, 2009 by CBEMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyM83 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I do not see ANY sign of the ET tube coming out of his mouth. My question is this: did they have to cric him? and if so why? Or is this another case like that of Elvis, someone wanting to disappear from society? Seems strange to me, any thought, comments or? No collar. Properly placed ET tube holder with ET tube coming out of it. The call was in fact very real and while HIPAA is in effect the rescue, engine, and higher ups who responded to the call would know and it would eventually spread if it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croaker260 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 No collar. Properly placed ET tube holder with ET tube coming out of it. The call was in fact very real and while HIPAA is in effect the rescue, engine, and higher ups who responded to the call would know and it would eventually spread if it wasn't. Well, mostly off topic, but how many people place a collar in non-traumatic intubated patients for tube maintance (to prevent tube dislodgement). For us its "strongly encouraged". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentMedic Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 The call was in fact very real and while HIPAA is in effect the rescue, engine, and higher ups who responded to the call would know and it would eventually spread if it wasn't. No, this is not a HIPAA think unless numbers and other data are released. For the EMS providers this falls under state, local and department patient privacy laws which have been in place for decades and probably centuries. Of course some in EMS also forget about the EMS code of ethics and EMT Oath. The call probably went out over the scanner waves which every celebrity reporter has along with all the addresses memorized. However, if EMS providers release the information themselves, there will been many violations and if certain information is released that falls under HIPAA, then is will also be included. But in CA, there are enough state regulations concerning patient privacy to keep the courts occupied if someone wants to push it. I would hope it would be dealt with from the ENS departments involved before it would have to go further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMT Headed Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Ok I have a question for everyone. I have attached a link to what the media claims is a picture of Michael Jackson being taken to the ambulance. I see a collar on him, and a BVM. From what I see the collar is pretty far up and looks to be over his bottom lip, or very close. I do not see ANY sign of the ET tube coming out of his mouth. My question is this: did they have to cric him? and if so why? Or is this another case like that of Elvis, someone wanting to disappear from society? Seems strange to me, any thought, comments or? http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75724/index.html That's the tube holder across his mouth, not a C collar. Man, that's one code I definitely wouldn't wanna be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paramedicmike Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Well, mostly off topic, but how many people place a collar in non-traumatic intubated patients for tube maintance (to prevent tube dislodgement). For us its "strongly encouraged". I do this all the time. -be safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwayneEMTP Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 ...Maybe it's best that way though... Pedophiles should not be allowed to have kids. What was the date of conviction again? I tried Googling it but got nothing, but you seem to have some inside information...care to share? Dwayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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