Just Plain Ruff

I am in total agreement with all that unruly or disruptive kids are not appropriate for airline travel. Travelling with two disabled kids without the help you need is a recipe for disaster or in this persons case, a recipe for a stay at MOtel 6 I flew last week with a young boy who at times would scream out and yell and then silence. The grandfather who was with him controlled him but let me tell you, at 11pm at night when the passengers are sleeping and then to have little Johnny Yells a Lot on the plane, it causes many people to wake up and become angry. I was one of them. the flight attendant went to the grandfather and told him to keep the child from screaming and he told her "I can't control him" the attendant said, "that's not our problem but you are disrupting the flight of 123 other passengers so please try to keep your child quiet" I applaud the flight attendants for their jobs and what they go through. I would not want their jobs. I've seen flight attendants cussed at, spit on, pushed and threatened. Each time that they have had the above happen there have always been state troopers or police officers awaiting the dumbass stupid enough to threaten the flight attendant and usually a pair of shiny new hand er bracelets were waiting for them. Bottom line, if you have a disabled child, you do what's right, it's not fair to deny them travel but if they are disruptive to the point of disrupting the flight then there is no way that you can let them fly.

Cop: "Yeah, my wife trains them could that be the crux of the issue here? Maybe that's why they are so terrible where you work!!!!

I hear what you are saying. I hate parents who say It's not my fault, it's the kids. I just can't control them. I can attest from personal experience, my son wanted a stuffed animal at the airport kiosk. I told him he couldn't have one and he melted down. I went to pick him up and he became jello. I put him down and told him to stay there till he was finished. I overheard a woman say "That dad's a real idiot, can't even control his own kid" You can imagine what I said to her. I won't repeat it but after I let her know what she should have said she did apologize. What I find so frustrating with society today is that immediately it's not our fault yet it's someone elses. Case in point, a mother in jacksonville who after being told that her son was part of a group who committed a string of robberies said this (I'll try to quote best I can) "He's a really good boy, he must have gotten in with the wrong crowd. He's not like that at all" or something like that. Unfortunately, the gun was found in his waisteband, the car was his that they used to get away and the two victims that were shot, were shot by the gun in his pants and witnesses said that he was the shooter. Wrong crowd huh? I consider myself a good dad, a loving dad but sometimes kids can drive you to the brink of just saying "F it" and if you don't know how to deal with those feelings you often just say F it and walk away.

Like I said, I'm in agreement that Southwest kicked her off. She should not have been travelling with a Severely Autistic child and a CP child without HELP and LOTS of it. What I'm saying is that like many other posts, many of the respondents have knee Jerk reactions that what they read in the newspaper and what they read here is the gospel truth and is to be believed without verification. It's the same as some medic who is accused of something, that is just what it is a accusation and until proven it is only an accusation. But here on the city we immediately call for his death and the castration of said medic or emt and often times, it is ruled to not be a crime yet that medic's career is ruined. I hope that makes it more clear.

I know who admin is and he/she's not one of the ones on the list. Look further my friends, further out.

This post really gets my blood boiling on two points. 1. The holier than thou attitudes of people on this board. 2. The parent for flying by themselves with 4 kids, one with CP and the other with Autism. I have many friends who have children with autism. Many of them are well behaved yet others have such severe autism that they cannot be controlled and often leads to discussions of institutionalization. Of the 4 or so who have posted on this so far, do any of you have children? If not then you really have no freaking grounds to complain or even begin to think you know what the parenting style or how good a parent is just by a darn news story. If you have children and they have never gotten out of control or thrown a tantrum in public then I applaud you yet I'd be questioning your parenting. Are you too strict, do you beat your children into submission and fear so bad that they don't act out or just act like kids because they are too afraid of what you'll do to them when they get home. Due to this thread and how it's taken a turn towards bad parenting I suspect that all of you who posted here don't have kids, wouldn't know what a child is unless it sat on your laps and called you daddy. Why are we so judgemental on this forum and that immediately we have knee jerk reactions to news stories like this. I'm sick of this type of posting.

for 16 courses in grad school I spent around 300-1000 per course in books. Thank god for school loans. i think one of my courses with 2 books was 550.00 for those two books alone.

Hijacking the thread 1. just bust down the doors to the closed ER and start working her up. I'll bet theres still some items that can be used to take care of her in there. Other than that, take her to the trauma center. 3. Maybe she's worried about the kids or the fact that she probably has to make dinner and papa bear isn't gonna be happy when his dinner isn't ready.

lung sounds Ferris?

Kaisu was just enticing me to talk dirty to her. I did in a PM. I think I made her day.

I agree, He man lifts car off she woman. Good job Mr. Fireman. I do mean that.

I cannot remember. I just saw a short blurb in the USA today paper about it. It was in monday's paper in the news around the nation where they have each state with a interesting news piece on it.

This is a great step but how bout having medicare increase the reimbursement rate. not sure how a service can operated on the breadcrumbs that medicare thinks it can pay EMS systems as well as hospitals.

are you serious Kaisu, didn't you see the pic? Hoping that's sarcasm and not truly that you don't understand. If you still don't understand it, I'll send you a PM.

The picture does better justice to this than I ever could. http://www.joeydevilla.com/2008/06/11/gumm...ariously-wrong/

http://www.local6.com/news/16759668/detail.html Super hero dressed as a fireman.

nah not a date. The winner might be a Dude!!!!

your school really is screwing you over. It's their responsibility to find you a preceptor or is it yours? If you want to come to Missouri and do some preceptoring, let me know. I'll put you in touch with a couple of agencies I used to work for.

winning prize will be announce closer to the end of the contest. I actually have to look at my bookshelf to see which book I might be able to part with. It may actually also be something from a online merchant. I just haven't decided. And who knows, it might just be a roundtrip airline ticket from Southwest to come to KC MO to have dinner with me!!! ha ha

you post it here. If you don't want your entry pillaged then I recommend you submit it on the final day of the contest. Contest ends 2 weeks from today.

the only time I remotely smiled was when he got knocked on his butt by the waves. But to be able to travel to all those places, I'm jealous. I've been to every state in the union, Australia, Canada, and Mexico.

This is an easy one. I want those who participate to provide me with a education curriculum for a paramedic program. It can be either a AS degree program, A BS Degree program or a certificate program. The sky is the limit. You are only limited by your imagination. Feel free to use university web sites and curriculum guides but you can't just cut and paste AND you must cite your source. Include length of program, hours spent in clinicals. Include price of program also. End of contest will be two weeks from the posting of this post. Feel free to PM me with questions or ask them here. I will respond as well as possible but don't expect a response this weekend. The prize will be a nice prize and if you have questions on past contest prizes just search for contest in the EMT City search field. spenac and others know what the prizes have been and can attest to their quality and value.

the one thing I would test them on would be writing a EMS report.

Ok, I've weighed in on this a couple of times and everyone's opinions are valid either to them or to some others. AS for education - these are my thoughts. If we as a profession require an associates then by golly you should have to get all the classes that are offered and required by that associates degree. I don't see the RN's bitching and moaning about having to take the humanities classes, the composition classes and the other non-nursing classes. If it's required for your program then you take them. I do say that we can get away from some of the requirements by providing additional EMS level educaiton that could be substituted. But if you are expecting an AS degree then you do what every other student who is going after their AS degrees and you take the required courses. What makes you so special to be able to not have to take the classes that every other AS degree candidate has to take? Nothing at all. If we as a profession want to be recognized as one, then we need to step up the plate and suggest that an AS degree is the minimum for paramedic. If we want to be recognized as a degree'd profession then we need to accept that the AS is where we are going to start at. Nurses start at the AS degree level and progress upwards. and here is one novel thought, if you ever want to go back and get your RN think of how much closer you would be if you stopped bitching long enough to realize that your basic pre-reqs (which never expire - history, math, english comp and many others). I find that the basic knee jerk reactions of "Oh no, not a degree, it's too much work" or it's not fair just doesn't cut it here. I've already pointed out the levels of those out there who don't want to go the extra mile to get the education that they need and might be required for work as a medic. But go ahead and continue to resist the degree aspect of this movement and you do nothing to further the cause of our quest for better educated medics and emt's. Either get on the bus or get out of the way. Either which way, eventually the bus is gonna leave, with or with out you, Do you want to be on the bus or thrown under it? You decide.

For Medics What do you wish your training classes would have coved more indeepth? Everything What did you have to study on your own to beable to pass the test? Grays Anatomy, Physiology Textbook that my Girlfriend the Doctor gave me and several other of her medical texts What did you have to learn once you were working as an medic that you feel should have been part of your class? Had to learn it all over again because there was just not enough time spent on anything. Are there any skills that you feel should have be recovered as in medic class that are your basic skills? Airway Airway Airway Are there any skills that you feel would be helpful to you as a medic if an EMT-B knew them? Setting up all of the equipment with a blindfold on, better driving skills