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[benasack2000]

Hey guys. I was just wondering about what an Advanced First Aid Course teaches and typically how long one is. Im already an MFR but i am asking this for a friend in CERT. He didn't want to go get the full 48 Hour CFR course. Instead he is deciding to do an Advanced First Aid Course and also a CPR/AED for Healthcare Providers (because it includes a BVM). He was wondering if the advanced course covered:

 

Backboarding

Obstetrics

 

 

Thanks, Ben

[Kiwiology]

Not here in New Zed, neither

[island emt]

NO ! 

[scubanurse]

It's really going to depend on the center offering the course and what their curriculum.  This will vary between states, educational centers, and the country it's in.

 

We have members here from all over the world, so being specific as to the region you are inquiring about is important.  

 

Most advanced first aid won't cover much about OB or backboarding as those are generally considered EMT skills.  If you post with more detail as to where you are in the world and what center, we might be able to be of more assistance.

[benasack2000]

Boston Massachusetts. US

i looked up the course info

 

OB and emergency childbirth is covered

[scubanurse]

that's cool...can you post a link?

[island emt]

If your talking about the American red cross advanced first aid, CPR & AED for the professional rescuer 16 hour class, then you'll have a 15 minute lecture on emergency childbirth. back boarding is not in the syllabus . The CPR & AED  portion is 7 hrs & testing time , which leaves less than 8 hrs for the entire first aid portion of the class.

[Kiwiology]

Here is what Advanced First Aid covers in NZ

 

 

• Managing simple hazards at a scene.

• Managing and assisting at a cardiac arrest using a OPA, BVM and AED

• Understanding how infection spreads and how to minimise it spreading.

• Assessing, cleaning and dressing wounds including wounds with embedded objects

• Using direct pressure to stop major bleeding.

• Dealing with jelly fish stings, spider, human and animal bites.

• Understanding what shock is, how its caused and the signs of it.

• SAMPLE and PQRST questioning and basic secondary survey

• Assessment of pulse, breathing, and skin.

• How to manage burns using cold water and cling film.

• How to manage isolated limb injuries using a sling, pillow and cardboard splint.

• Understanding common medical conditions that may lead to an acute emergency

• Understanding common causes a loss of unconsciousness, SOB and chest pain.

• How to make a basic assessment of a patients respiratory status

• How to handover to someone using the MIST method.

• Recognising a spinal injury and immobilising the patient using blankets in a “nose to toes” position without cervical collars

[benasack2000]

Yeah, I just checked an Advanced First Aid course at a local university. Called the instructor, 1 hour training on OB and Backboarding and C-Spine will be covered. 

 

Thanks

its about 22-23 hours 

[island emt]

Just enough time for a wannabe to be dangerous to the patient.

Advanced first air is what they teach in cub scouts to get a merit badge.

An hour on OB, backboarding & c-spine will not even begin to give the knowledge required to do any good . Unless it takes that long to teach you to call 911