Jump to content

  • Log in with Facebook Log in with Twitter Log In with Google      Sign In   
  • Create Account
Current Chat Room Users
0 users are in Main Room:



Did you know it is free to become a member?  Just click "Create Account" on the top right of this page.


Photo
- - - - -

Can a first year med student legally treat patients without direct Dr. oversight?


  • Please log in to reply
63 replies to this topic

#31 ERDoc

ERDoc

    5-38-BUFF

  • Elite Members
  • 3,764 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hell (aka West Michigan)
  • Occupation:Guess
Reputation: 571
Excellent

Posted 25 December 2012 - 03:12 AM

Pretty much what spenac said. There is no way you could be the first and if they have ever done it to a medicare/medicaid pt, CMS will want to know. They are making it more and more difficult for us to legitimately/legally collect, they would love to know that there is someone that they don't need to pay anymore.
  • 0

#32 DwayneEMTP

DwayneEMTP

    Welcome to the jungle..we've got fun and games...

  • Moderators
  • 4,611 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Colorado Springs, Colorado
  • Occupation:AAS EMS-Paramedic, remote duty paramedic
Reputation: 861
Excellent

Posted 25 December 2012 - 03:19 AM

Thanks for that guys...I'll contact them...I'm pretty committed now to not only messing up the doc, but also the clinic. All had the chance to do the right thing, and all have chosen not to...so, game on.
  • 0

#33 chbare

chbare
  • Elite Members
  • 3,198 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Occupation:Anti-provencial thinkingtologist
Reputation: 446
Excellent

Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:41 AM

Dwayne, you dumb bastard! :D You are 50 years old and having cardiac complaints. You basically made every lay person mistake in the book, but you had the balls to come clean. Good on you. Good luck as you move foreword.

Edited by chbare, 25 December 2012 - 04:44 AM.

  • 1

#34 DwayneEMTP

DwayneEMTP

    Welcome to the jungle..we've got fun and games...

  • Moderators
  • 4,611 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Colorado Springs, Colorado
  • Occupation:AAS EMS-Paramedic, remote duty paramedic
Reputation: 861
Excellent

Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:56 AM

I knew that it was taking a chance, but cardiac issues are for the wealthy or well insured, they are not really for the middle income struggling family, and certainly not for the single income family with handicapped children.

Dylan needs a speech therapist, occupational therapist, has a trainer at the gym. All really, really important to help him participate in his life to the best of his ability and desire. Do you, as his dad, take all of those things away for a $10k cardiac work-up (making assumptions, but, as a clinic visit was a thousand bucks it's probably not far off...) to ease your mind, or try and be more conservative as long as possible when perfusion issues don't appear to accompany the other symptoms...Because there is certainly no way that I can accept that bill and still keep those services.

Not whining, or defending really, just explaining my reasoning. I know the choice that I made, but I'm truly curious about the choices of others...Maybe there are options here that I'm not seeing? I've gotten jammed up by being sensitive to those patients that explained that they couldn't afford a huge hospital bill unless I was really certain that they were in danger..that it would be life altering to be transported for tests to rule out issues...and I get that completely, several times having the family drive them when I felt it was likely non critical, and following them to the ER in the ambulance in case I was wrong.

It's really easy, and makes us feel good to say, "Where our health is involved money should never be considered..." But real life, for me anyway, isn't like that at all. Every dollar I spend on me means that something gets taken away from Babs or Dylan (figuratively speaking)...And to take the therapists away from Dylan could be life altering for him. (Therapists are wicked expensive, but really valuable.) Sure, losing me would be life altering...but I was playing the odds the best way that I knew how...

Again, I'm not whining. I've chosen this career, created that amazing boy, and have chosen, along with Babs of course, to be a single income family. So I'm not pretending to be a victim of the system, just explaining that for me there really isn't a realistic system beyond basic medical needs. Significant non emergent tests and treatments are for those well above or below me financially.

If this was your (speaking to all willing to participate) issue, all family, age, financial, historical issues as described in this thread...what would you do?
  • 0

#35 chbare

chbare
  • Elite Members
  • 3,198 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Occupation:Anti-provencial thinkingtologist
Reputation: 446
Excellent

Posted 25 December 2012 - 06:23 AM

I cannot answer that question bro. I do not have children and never wanted children. Was sterilised at a very young age, so I have no real concept of what it means to be a father. However, it's hard to look after your son if you are dead. Can you look at a private insurance plan?

In the spirit of full disclosure, I developed severe right sided chest pain and dyspepsia intermittently when I'd lay down at night several months ago. I was working a few part time jobs without benefits and could not seem to get coverage due to pre-existing conditions (minor for myself). I took a chance and figured it was likely Gi and I waited. Currently doing quite well with a possible hiatel hernia with symptomology that is well controlled on a PPI.
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users