ambulance companies checking driving record

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Far all Paramedic jobs I've searched they say they check your driving record. When they do this are they checking the MVR that shows your current infractions and points on your license due to things like speeding tickets, or do they check the CLUE report that shows all the collisions/wrecks you have been in?
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There is no universal answer. It is up to the employer what they check.
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has anyone here been denied a job due to something on their record?
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Well, I know we have not hired because of a driving record.

As Gordan Graham says:

"Past performance predicts future practice"

If your reckless in your POV, why wouldnt you be in something you dont own. and if you wreck it, and you have a horrible record, even if it wasnt your fault, it looks very bad and enhances liability for the services end.
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I ask because I've got 2 speeding tickets from 2006 and I had a string of bad luck resulting in 3 wrecks in 2007. They should be off my record by the time I'm done with medic school but the CLUE report shows all my wrecks on there that I had to file insurance claims for.
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Around here the general rule with places you care to work is no more than 3 points on a license and no more than one wreck within the preceding 3 years. DUI and other serious infractions such as suspended driving, etc automatically disqualify you. Minor stuff like registration, etc tend to be overlooked especially if dismissed. Also, there are things here called "shelf tickets". These are a speeding ticket that you might receive but do not receive points for and if you have not had a ticket within the last two years and do not receive another within 6 months is dismissed and you pay nothing. Essentially it is as if you never got the ticket. If you do get another ticket, then you pay both tickets and get double the points on your license. Not all counties do this, but those that do, it's a handy little thing. My last service if an employee received a shelf ticket, they were put on probationary driving status during the period and if they received another they lost their driving privledges for 6 months. Any serious infraction and they were terminated. Also a consistent history of accidents etc was looked at on a time basis and record since. For example if you had two wrecks five years ago and no tickets or anything since you would probably still get hired if you were best qualified. If it was last year, you probably would not. Granted we also had a 25 to drive rule which eliminated the typical 21 and under stupidity.

However, there are a variety of dump services around here that will hire anything including anything that is 18 and has a pulse regardless of whether it has a valid driver's license or not (yeah there's been more than a few pegged that were driving ambulances on suspensions). It just depends on what you are willing to work. Give it time and no serious infractions and you should be just fine. Around here checks run between 5 and 7 years back.
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Most states today use the NCIC system which has drivers records back 11, yes eleven years,
Speeding tickets & moving violations will show , and crashes will only show if you were issued citations. Your record from other states will also be there .
Moving violations and property loss accidents might tend to make an insurance company not want you to be an operator and that is what will decide if a company hires you.
DUI's & criminal speed will also get you rejected by most reputable firms risk management dept's.
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All I've ever had to do was go to the local Oklahoma Tag Agency and have them pull a MVR which goes back 3 years.
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As dust stated, it varies place to place, but if you wonder why, check this out:

[url="http://www.naemsp.org/documents/characteristicsoffatalambulancecrashes.pdf"]http://www.naemsp.org/documents/characteri...ancecrashes.pdf[/url]


It is an 11 year study of fatal ambulance crashes, that pretty much proves if you have alot of violations you are more likely to be involved in a serious accident.

As far as not hiring due to driving record, I turned down several over the years --- My thoughts are that if you can not follow traffic law, then you will probably not follow my laws (policy & procedure) --- and of course, studies have already proved that these people would probably wreck my ambulances at some point. And of course, I would never hire someone with a DUI.

** As far as your specific record, with that much on your record, most good private companies will not be able to hire you, because their insurance will not write you. Obvioulsy as a Paramedic, you could be hired as a non-driver. Your best bet is to probably go with a municipality, as most governments are self-insured, or have insurance companies that are more liberal. I would suggest taking a defensive driving course, as most of the insurance companies that might consider you will demand it anyway. And it might help to improve your driving skills (3 accidents and 2 tickets in a two year period is not bad luck, it is bad driving). Edited by crotchitymedic1986
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Take a defensive driving course. I think you get points when you complete driver education programs. As for hiring,employers discretion. Goodluck!
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[quote name='TDP' post='220492' date='Jul 29 2009, 01:52 PM']Take a defensive driving course. I think you [u]get[/u] points when you complete driver education programs.[/quote]

Actually, if you have points, they get [u]reduced[/u] by taking these courses, and your personal auto insurance will go down even with NO points on your driver's insurance.
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[quote name='island emt' post='220378' date='Jul 28 2009, 02:38 AM']Most states today use the NCIC system which has drivers records back 11, yes eleven years,
Speeding tickets & moving violations will show , and crashes will only show if you were issued citations. Your record from other states will also be there .
Moving violations and property loss accidents might tend to make an insurance company not want you to be an operator and that is what will decide if a company hires you.
DUI's & criminal speed will also get you rejected by most reputable firms risk management dept's.[/quote]


Sorry Island emt but this is just wrong information. NCIC (National Crime Information Center) is a federally run data base on Stolen vehicles, tags, guns, missing persons, wanted criminals etc, and HAS NOTHING to do with DMV.

Each state has its own DMV, which is linked to each other thru a sytem called NLETS National Law Enforcement Telegraph System. This system allows each state to enter driving records, and vehicle registration records for all vehicles registerd in that state. It also allows an officer from one state, to communicate via NLETS, and check a driving record of anyone.

This system is RESTRICTED to official LE purposes only, and is not used by MOST private ambulance and EMS companies to get "driving historys".. Usually an employee will ask you to fill out a waiver and send away to DMV for you record, (it costs about 5-10 bucks) or if they are a town FD, or City EMS, they will ask to local PD to run it for them as part of a pre-employment background check, or a continuing check every X number of years.

I know of some pvt ems agencies that required you to bring a driving record with you when you submitted you application.

NYC-EMS used to check it every 3 years (when you went to refresher) simply make sure your license was not SUSPENDED or REVOKED. every time they ran a check they found several employees who were. Most were not fired , but merely prohibited from driving until the got a clearance.

Bottom line there are MANY ways of checking your driving record, but if a PD does its thru NLETS, not NCIC, also differnet states go back different number of years..

For Example, NYS registers a lot more cars than Rhode Island so you might get a history from RI for 11 years, NYS make only go back 7, it all depends how their data base is set up....

As for NCIC, once a Stolen, Missing person, wanted person or Unidentified person is entered into NCIC, it become a PERMANENT record, and CAN NOT BE DELETED until removed by the agency that entered the case into the system.

I hope this clears things up.

Stay safe ... FormerEMSLT and current NCIC terminal operator.
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